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Gavin Henson: Dragons back retains hope of Wales recall at 35
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40602506
Marmite? :D


Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:47 pm
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35 and still playing

Knowing your body and not being bullied into playing when not 100% fit seems to have paid off

Marmite? nah

We'll be talking about him in 10 years. Natural ball player, natural distributor, deceptive pace, strong as an ox

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If he plays well, I would be happy to see him play.


Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:14 am
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Fids the Blindside wrote:
35 and still playing

Knowing your body and not being bullied into playing when not 100% fit seems to have paid off

Marmite? nah

We'll be talking about him in 10 years. Natural ball player, natural distributor, deceptive pace, strong as an ox


Sadly not able to realise full potential, a personal fault line.

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Fids the Blindside wrote:
35 and still playing

Knowing your body and not being bullied into playing when not 100% fit seems to have paid off

Marmite? nah

We'll be talking about him in 10 years. Natural ball player, natural distributor, deceptive pace, strong as an ox

I think far too often people think that 35 is over the hill.
Now lets consider Venus Williams 37, Roger Federer 35 still at the top of their game.
There have been others who have played top rugby/cricket/tennis/squash into their 40's.
I believe John McEnroe can still beat most of the top first division tennis players and he is now 58?
A lot depends on how motivated and how a person has looked after themselves.
A player like Henson won't play just to get another cap if he is not fully fit he will pull out. We all know that.
But there are those, probably most players, who will do anything for another cap. Even feigning that they are fit.
I am looking forward to a rejuvenated Dragons next season. A team that was poorly last year even though every now and then they showed promise. In their defence they played at least 50% of their matches in a mud bath, must have been demoralizing. I am sure that with the injection of funds and a far better pitch and the motivation of a person like a 'matured' Henson, they will cause more than a few surprises.
I just hope the anti Henson brigade will give him a chance this time to show that he has really matured.


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Henson's been horribly unlucky with injuries (e.g. he was named at fly-half for the Probables in the trial match a few years ago, only to get injured, plus all those world cups he missed) as well, though he also needs to take personal responsibility to a certain extent for the way his career has panned out. If he had had the humility and self-discipline of e.g. Warburton he would have gained at least twice as many caps as he has, though then again maybe the management would have treated him like they have Hook.

That said, in the past few years he really does seem to have matured (possibly spending it out of the limelight has helped) and when fit he still has a lot to offer. I really hope he can have an Indian Summer at the Dragons.


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On field attitude and ability of the pro era.
Off field attitude of the amateur era.


Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:37 pm
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ironrobson21 wrote:
On field attitude and ability of the pro era.
Off field attitude of the amateur era.

True! Problem is that some people mature later than others.
I was one of those ones that matured (well almost) later than others, so I can emphasize.
Henson is not the only one, Andy Powell comes to mind but there are many more.
The higher the profile the more the public backlash.


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BigRed wrote:
ironrobson21 wrote:
On field attitude and ability of the pro era.
Off field attitude of the amateur era.

True! Problem is that some people mature later than others.
I was one of those ones that matured (well almost) later than others, so I can emphasize.
Henson is not the only one, Andy Powell comes to mind but there are many more.
The higher the profile the more the public backlash.


Look how many teams Henson and Powell played for ...tells a story?

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Tony Panties wrote:
BigRed wrote:
ironrobson21 wrote:
On field attitude and ability of the pro era.
Off field attitude of the amateur era.

True! Problem is that some people mature later than others.
I was one of those ones that matured (well almost) later than others, so I can emphasize.
Henson is not the only one, Andy Powell comes to mind but there are many more.
The higher the profile the more the public backlash.


Look how many teams Henson and Powell played for ...tells a story?

No one denying that but Henson got a bad deal at Cardiff from the B&B coaches at the time.
The ice cubes on the plane was purely from his frustration with the coaches.
I don't know about any one else but I was also frustrated by Cardiff coaches and it is no secret that they were f/st!t.


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BigRed wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
BigRed wrote:
ironrobson21 wrote:
On field attitude and ability of the pro era.
Off field attitude of the amateur era.

True! Problem is that some people mature later than others.
I was one of those ones that matured (well almost) later than others, so I can emphasize.
Henson is not the only one, Andy Powell comes to mind but there are many more.
The higher the profile the more the public backlash.


Look how many teams Henson and Powell played for ...tells a story?

No one denying that but Henson got a bad deal at Cardiff from the B&B coaches at the time.
The ice cubes on the plane was purely from his frustration with the coaches.
I don't know about any one else but I was also frustrated by Cardiff coaches and it is no secret that they were f/st!t.


Henson had lots of deals some of which were terminated early and contentious too....

He also soiled his trousers in after 6Ns mstch event, train journey back to cardiff by train whilst team took the bus back, also had injury break whilst diving off yacht in the med with Charlotte, bar brawl at Toulon, etc

He has let himself down as well as others not giving him the support he did need.

I'm not mud raking .....just putting into context the sadness of what he could've achieved.

I used to be a fan of boxing nd there are many similar instances there.

Imo, he'll never reappear in the International arena.

In his Ospreys days he was the firm family favourite ;)

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Tony Panties wrote:
Imo, he'll never reappear in the International arena.

Never say never. :D
Only the year before last the Bath fans were saying that Bath was a better side when Ford was away on international duty and Henson was at 10.
I did copy and paste those comments on scumv at the time.
I do not think Ford Snr liked those comments which is why he got rid of Henson to Bristol.
Unfortunately for Bristol Henson was badly injured on the first game of the season and only played the last two or three games.


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BigRed wrote:
ironrobson21 wrote:
On field attitude and ability of the pro era.
Off field attitude of the amateur era.

True! Problem is that some people mature later than others.
I was one of those ones that matured (well almost) later than others, so I can emphasize.
Henson is not the only one, Andy Powell comes to mind but there are many more.
The higher the profile the more the public backlash.

pretty sure andy powell has yet to mature

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Fids the Blindside wrote:
35 and still playing

Knowing your body and not being bullied into playing when not 100% fit seems to have paid off

Marmite? nah

We'll be talking about him in 10 years. Natural ball player, natural distributor, deceptive pace, strong as an ox

only because in ten years time he'll probably still be playing.

best player i've ever seen live. what he achieved pales into insignificance compared to what he coulda shoulda woulda achieved

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Big piece in the Echo yesterday.

He's still news is Mr Henson. All he needs now is a season without injury and he'll be a happy man.

It's good to see him back in Wales.


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