going to 13-a-side yet?

Serious question. Watched some Euro Cup on the weekend, they're getting worse.

There's about as much chance of the scrum going in RU as there is as RL becoming popular in Wales - and that will happen after The Martians land.

Theres martians

I'd rather sit in empty field on a cold wet windy day, waiting for martians to land, than watch rugby league and i dont believe in martians.

Pft ............. Storm in a teacup.

What Martians landing in a teacup

Even the martians will get bored of Run 'n' wriggle Turf Humping within 5 minutes just like everyone else.

All the thousands that watch it? And thousands more who watch RL over RU on satellite TV.

Watched some of the Force vs. NSW earlier, no unfair attacking of the scrum half at scrum, less stupid going for the ball in the tackle area when it's obviously not possible to get it; and there was one penalty given for using a player to hold oneself up at a ruck, this would have been allowed in the NH, but wrongly allowed; the overrated B O'Driscoll was quite rightly penalised in Brissy for it last year, a few complaints from the Sky team over it, but it was the right call from the referee.

So, back to today, it was like watching a different sport to the one played in the NH. Brian Moore said the Aussies want to get rid of the scrum, I've never heard J O'Neill say that, so it might not be true. But O'Neill would like to see some law changes, as we all know.

Thousands. vs millions for union. The global figures speak for themselves, union eclipses turf humping in terms of popularity.

Stop calling RL names you ignoramus.

Millions watching club RU? You can't include "internationals". The vast majority of those who go to 6 "nations" aren't rugby supporters. That would be like calling most who get married in church, Christians.

Show me the TV viewing figures for 15-a-side club rugby football, include play-offs if you want, where are these millions in the US, Aus, Canada, Japan and England. The NRL TV deal is far bigger than the Top 14 and the English Prem. one.

How much is the TV deal for the top flight Scotland, Ireland and Wales RL teams?

The match in the 2014 Six Nations with the lowest viewing figures still had a higher viewer number than the RLWC semi final between NZ And England. ( Source: BBC).

The vast majority of those who go to internationals aren't rugby supporters? Are you sure? How are you a "real" fan and they are not? Is your money more valuable than theirs? No? Didn't think so. Rugby League would love to be able to pack the grounds around the World - then they might have a sport that is popular in more than just one country, a sport that isn't dying on its ass everywhere except Australia.

*fupp* off you demented *prk*, and don't come back - we only like "real" board members here .

Why have you resorted to personal insults? Not very funny. I've heard Welsh ppl complain about the way RU is played nowadays, and with the exp. law variations there have obviously bn many talks about changing some laws. I heard H Llywelyn Davies say he was in favour of the ELV's.

If you had un-contested 6 person scrums, which only took place in the oppositions half, 13-a-side as I've said, say then a 65 metre wide pitch to compensate slightly for the reduction in playing numbers, this would help Welsh rugby immeasurably, I'm sure Cardiff would be going far better today than what they are, RU as it is does not suit the Welsh psyche, I'm 100% sure that C James would be in favour of changes to the laws. Also interchanges, 8 of them, instead of replacements, to stop what happened at Quins, and also so we don't see the ridiculous situation of loads of players coming on towards the end of a match.

Prove it. All I can find is the average for the 6N, 2.3m watched England v NZ in the RLWC semi-final, but 2.4 watched England v Aus in their first match at the Cardiff ice rink.

But, I would rather you stick to my point, and it concerns ppl who watch club football (rugby), so where do the ppl who watch 6N go when the clubs (I include the regions in this, as they, IMO are clubs) are playing? As Dewi Llwyd, a soccer + Man.Utd supporter, who, when he said this on Pawb a'i Farn and possibly seemed a little smug, "It's the occasion that takes them to Cardiff". Surely far more should watch the RUWC next year, no? I'll be very interested to see if more tune in for Wales v England in the WC than the 6N. My bet will be that the 6N gets a bigger TV viewing audience. The Wales v England 6N match in 2013 drew 8.2m viewers, the Wales v France RUWC semi-final drew 6.6 million, which was more than the England v France QF, which averaged 4.2m. The 6N more popular than the WC? It's obviously the case, and that's wrong.