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Sam Moore ( son of Steve, nephew of Andy) who is dual qualified has been called up as an apprentice by Englands 6 nations squad, it will be really disappointing if we lose him as a Welsh born youngster given he has shown great promise in a position we lack depth


Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:27 pm
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I sort of feel Eddie Jones has taken a dislike to the Welsh and done this to stir the hornets nest.


Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:31 pm
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He's educated, raised and still lives in England and has played for England at every age range from U15 upwards, and has expressed no desir to represent Wales

He's very clearly English

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:29 pm
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CymraegJanner wrote:
He's educated, raised and still lives in England and has played for England at every age range from U15 upwards, and has expressed no desir to represent Wales

He's very clearly English




Puts that one to bed then 8)

I don't even think it ties him to England long term so he still has the options depending on how his career develops. If he's a product of the England structure, there's no issue.

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:34 pm
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He won't be the only Welshman that turned his back on Wales.
It started with Henry VIII, a mommy's (Yorkist) boy.
Good to see many others even from as far afield as New Zealand and South Africa heed the call of their Welsh heritage.
We have never needed the people who deny their heritage.


Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:25 pm
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Pity. Should stick with the old mans country!


Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:08 pm
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He got away that's for sure but, as CJ says, his heritage (alone) may be Welsh but, the lad is probably English in every aspect you could think of!! Can't have them all and he's far from being a Dewi Morris I suspect!! (Anyone remember him? he was Welsh in every way, language included, until, he went up the smoke for 3 weeks and, having had a Saul-type conversion, somewhere between Abergavenny and Witney on the old A40, he became an English sensation who thought 'Boys Bach' became Roys Arse' or something like that!!)

Still 'n all, we can still call on David Jason if needed, he used to spend his school holidays as a kid in Pontlottyn, and, according to his book, he hated going back to school because he used to develop such a strong valleys accent by the time he went back to London, he used to get a regular kicking from Billy Higgins the school bully!!

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:38 pm
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My Mum used to see him regularly in Taffs Well, he was living with a Welsh actress Myfanwy Talog she was friendly with who lived there

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Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:44 pm
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Black Dragon wrote:
Pity. Should stick with the old mans country!




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redpodrhys wrote:
I sort of feel Eddie Jones has taken a dislike to the Welsh and done this to stir the hornets nest.

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He will end up like Ben Morgan - here today, gone tomorrow.
Very few England players end up with that many caps.
Too many to choose from.
If I were his father I would tell him some home truths about the longevity of England players.


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He will end up like Ben Morgan - here today, gone tomorrow.
Very few England players end up with that many caps.
Too many to choose from.
If I were his father I would tell him some home truths about the longevity of England players.


Such as Jason Leonard, Rory Underwood, Johnny Wilkinson, Owen Farrell, Will Greenwood, Lawrence Dallaglio etc?

It is not a question regarding the number of caps relating to the number of players to choose from. Your number of caps depends on your ability to play the game, married with your luck of avoiding injury at crucial times in your career.


Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:30 pm
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wombles wrote:
BigRed wrote:
He will end up like Ben Morgan - here today, gone tomorrow.
Very few England players end up with that many caps.
Too many to choose from.
If I were his father I would tell him some home truths about the longevity of England players.


Such as Jason Leonard, Rory Underwood, Johnny Wilkinson, Owen Farrell, Will Greenwood, Lawrence Dallaglio etc?

It is not a question regarding the number of caps relating to the number of players to choose from. Your number of caps depends on your ability to play the game, married with your luck of avoiding injury at crucial times in your career.

Yeah! And, how many good players have been discarded because of the tremendous depth of England rugby?
Sure. a few have risen above that but not many in comparison to the many used and then put on the back burner never to see an English jersey again.


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wombles wrote:
BigRed wrote:
He will end up like Ben Morgan - here today, gone tomorrow.
Very few England players end up with that many caps.
Too many to choose from.
If I were his father I would tell him some home truths about the longevity of England players.


Such as Jason Leonard, Rory Underwood, Johnny Wilkinson, Owen Farrell, Will Greenwood, Lawrence Dallaglio etc?

It is not a question regarding the number of caps relating to the number of players to choose from. Your number of caps depends on your ability to play the game, married with your luck of avoiding injury at crucial times in your career.



Hes got a point though, perhaps Wales are more suited to people who want an easier challenge and walk around Tescos being pointed at and people saying "he plays for Wales he does".

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Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:42 pm
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Billy Vunipola?

Potentially the most over-rated rugby player in history.


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