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Ah well the usual suspects have to find something to moan about I suppose



Dont come on forums to be happy do you :(

There does seem to be a preponderance of glass half empty people who post on forums and yet rugby people who I meet in person in the main seem a lot more upbeat

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I like him but he sometimes doesn't call it as it should like Gwyn Jones as hes too pally with the players and the current jobs for the boys management.


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Measured against Pillock Robson on the meter?

That brought it down to earth !

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He has an over inflated opinion of himself


Achieved the highest honours in both codes of rugby. Plenty of silverware and winners medals, represented country, Lions and GB, I think he's earned it.

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Achieved the highest honours in both codes of rugby. Plenty of silverware and winners medals, represented country, Lions and GB, I think he's earned it.[/quote]

well said.


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Fids the Blindside wrote:
Troron wrote:
He has an over inflated opinion of himself


Achieved the highest honours in both codes of rugby. Plenty of silverware and winners medals, represented country, Lions and GB, I think he's earned it.


As a player, not as a commentator. He seems to always butt in and talk over others, which shows he has little respect for the opinion of others and just wants people to hear him. Guscott, Tindall, Delaglio, Woodward to name a few have all achieved the highest honours in rugby yet that hasn't stopped criticism of them as pundits.

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There's no questioning his credentials as a player, one of the true greats of both codes, but that does not give him immunity from criticism of his current role, to think so is fallacious, an argument from special pleading. It's akin to saying that Bill McLaren was a mediocre commentator because he was a mediocre rugby player, which we all know is patently hogwash.

I find his indifference, and even contempt to even trying to be respectful to players names rude, unprofessional and unacceptable, I sense that he thinks he can get away with it because of his Jack the Lad, one of the boys image. He's also not very articulate when discussing the intricacies of our game. In his commentary all we hear is "numbers", "inside shoulder" blah blah blah ad nausea.

Brian Moore pointed out his irrational commentary several times on Saturday, Eddie Butler is a little more diplomatic but it nonetheless highlights Jiffy's inadequacies as a commentator, he's become a parody of himself, so many roll the eyes moments.

If we are so critical of the boys on the pitch, we should be prepared to be equally as critical of the custodians and promoters of our game.

I'm not saying that I could do any better, but it isn't my job to.

I accept that this is my opinion and it may not be shared by anyone else, that's life.

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Fids the Blindside wrote:
Troron wrote:
He has an over inflated opinion of himself


Achieved the highest honours in both codes of rugby. Plenty of silverware and winners medals, represented country, Lions and GB, I think he's earned it.

Agreed, accept he never made a Lions squad as he went North before he got chance as the 1986 tour never happened due to Apartheid and he had gone to League before 1989 tour!

Probably the only accolade missing from his career

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Andrew (Scum V) wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
Troron wrote:
He has an over inflated opinion of himself


Achieved the highest honours in both codes of rugby. Plenty of silverware and winners medals, represented country, Lions and GB, I think he's earned it.

Agreed, accept he never made a Lions squad as he went North before he got chance as the 1986 tour never happened due to Apartheid and he had gone to League before 1989 tour!

Probably the only accolade missing from his career


which ended over 20 yeas ago...I am with Troron on this one. Jiffy' s analysis is very light compared to most others, with Martyn Williams another poor choice.

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He was a fantastic player he would have been a fantastic player in today's game as well.

As a commentator, i have defended him i used to like him, but im beginning to imagine him as the David Steel puppet on spitting image and its doing my head in.

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Big And Dull wrote:
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Ah well the usual suspects have to find something to moan about I suppose



Dont come on forums to be happy do you :(

There does seem to be a preponderance of glass half empty people who post on forums and yet rugby people who I meet in person in the main seem a lot more upbeat


I thought you was gonna react to Dai's :D


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I haven't commented on Jiffy here because he is a natural treasure and now that you are all grown up and thrown away like Woody, I'll ask this: How many have ye seen him on Welsh TV??? Have you have ever fallen with style?

You are all so darn critical in not seeing your own faces being served up on tv? Hint: could there possibly be a reason?

Moore and Butler are a dream Team but Jiffy is The Real Ingot of 'Arddull Cymreig'!


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Jiffy does talk a good job, and he does have this habit of making rugby sound so easy to play, so you start wondering why the team you are watching can't play it like he says, but he is not a coach, he is just a pundit, he's being paid for his views on the game. I like him, but I can see why he could get on other peoples nerves.


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The Abominable Dr. Phibes wrote:
Jiffy does talk a good job, and he does have this habit of making rugby sound so easy to play, so you start wondering why the team you are watching can't play it like he says, but he is not a coach, he is just a pundit, he's being paid for his views on the game. I like him, but I can see why he could get on other peoples nerves.
It is an easy game to play, watch the AB's! It's us that make it complicated.


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gwladok5 wrote:
The Abominable Dr. Phibes wrote:
Jiffy does talk a good job, and he does have this habit of making rugby sound so easy to play, so you start wondering why the team you are watching can't play it like he says, but he is not a coach, he is just a pundit, he's being paid for his views on the game. I like him, but I can see why he could get on other peoples nerves.
It is an easy game to play, watch the AB's! It's us that make it complicated.

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