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New Zealand hoping for more success. 

What will be the result and the points difference?
All Blacks to win by 20 points or more 29%  29%  [ 7 ]
ABs to win by 10 points to 19 points 33%  33%  [ 8 ]
ABs to win by less than 10 points 20%  20%  [ 5 ]
Wales to get a draw 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Wales to win 16%  16%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 24

New Zealand hoping for more success. 
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Post New Zealand hoping for more success.
It seems that New Zealand have lost key players and so have Wales.

99% of the rugby world would be absolutely flabbergasted if Wales get within 15 points, I suppose.

Let's see what our little crew think of the likely gap.


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Post Re: New Zealand hoping for more success.
Scotland are just as injury-ravaged as Wales are (and no, they are not a much better team than Wales) but lost by just five points. I predict Wales will do roughly the same.


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I voted Wales to win, Gatland has been very astute told Falatau to drop the ball if he was in the clear against Oz, and not to score tries no matter how much pressure they put on the auzzies,
then against Georgia gave them a ballocking at half time about playing well and to revert back to dropping the ball and having no *fupping* idea,
Going to throw NZ right orf the smell of whats going on, Steve Hansen will be totally flumaxed :thefinger:

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NZ 10-19 points.

If Wales win Hansen's after match interview will concede Gatland's Coaching prowress Lions and Wales and will then commit hari kari on the centre line to a hurriedl arranged, suitably attired all in blAck haka.

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Heart says Wales, ABs by 20+

In my opinion, our lack of attacking prowess through the 3/4s, loss of Liam and inexperience of our wingers will see us struggle to cross the whitewash. The general ball handling and perceived ill-discipline at scrum time of our pack will also see us struggle to take advantage of any set piece field position, we seem to bugger up attacking line-outs far too regularly also. Webb may give the ABs some headaches but Read will be switched on to his snipes and ensure a sweeper is always there to deal with him.

If we can emulate Scotland's line speed then we may contain them for 50-60 mins.

Hansen will pick his strongest 23 and hope to ruin Gatland.

I think that Barrett and Crotty will have a field day.

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AB's to win by at least 2 scores, the Scotland game was their wake up call and they'll want to finish the tour on a high.
Anyone feeling optimistic about a Wales win should try picking a composite team from the two - in absence of Retallic, IMO AWJ would get in but no other Welsh players (Faletau gets close but just pipped by Read for me).
Liam and Foxy both huge losses for Wales.

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Berlin Warrior wrote:
Heart says Wales, ABs by 20+

In my opinion, our lack of attacking prowess through the 3/4s, loss of Liam and inexperience of our wingers will see us struggle to cross the whitewash. The general ball handling and perceived ill-discipline at scrum time of our pack will also see us struggle to take advantage of any set piece field position, we seem to bugger up attacking line-outs far too regularly also. Webb may give the ABs some headaches but Read will be switched on to his snipes and ensure a sweeper is always there to deal with him.

If we can emulate Scotland's line speed then we may contain them for 50-60 mins.

Hansen will pick his strongest 23 and hope to ruin Gatland.

I think that Barrett and Crotty will have a field day.


I think Ioane is the one to shred us

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Tony Panties wrote:
Berlin Warrior wrote:
Heart says Wales, ABs by 20+

In my opinion, our lack of attacking prowess through the 3/4s, loss of Liam and inexperience of our wingers will see us struggle to cross the whitewash. The general ball handling and perceived ill-discipline at scrum time of our pack will also see us struggle to take advantage of any set piece field position, we seem to bugger up attacking line-outs far too regularly also. Webb may give the ABs some headaches but Read will be switched on to his snipes and ensure a sweeper is always there to deal with him.

If we can emulate Scotland's line speed then we may contain them for 50-60 mins.

Hansen will pick his strongest 23 and hope to ruin Gatland.

I think that Barrett and Crotty will have a field day.


I think Ioane is the one to shred us


Thought he was injured?

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All Blacks lose another frontliner as Rieko Ioane ruled out for Wales finale


https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/99037402/all-blacks-lose-another-frontliner-as-rieko-ioane-ruled-out-for-wales-finale

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There is a little bit of lesson teaching due on Saturday...irrespective of who plays in the Black Shirt.

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I can't see the ABs winning by more than 10 with the amount of starters we have down. It wouldn't be a surprise to me if Wales broke their drought this week.

Next year though, with the team back together, then well be firing again. ATM we limp toward the end of the year.


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Four More Years wrote:
I can't see the ABs winning by more than 10 with the amount of starters we have down. It wouldn't be a surprise to me if Wales broke their drought this week.

Next year though, with the team back together, then well be firing again. ATM we limp toward the end of the year.



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You guys are too pessimistic.

This is an AB team missing its entire front row (Franks, Coles, Moody). Its best forward (Beautiful Brodie). Along with Jerome Kaino, Jordie Barrett, Israel Dagg, Ben Smith, Nehe Milner Skudder.

We've seen stuttering performances from the team with these guys missing, and Brodie, in particular, is the biggest loss of the bunch. He leaves a huge hole in the forward pack and also in the ability to run off the 10 in the midfield. None of our subs can replace what Brodie does.

This is the best chance Wales have had at a win in years. Granted you played like arse today, but we've seen bigger swings in a week. It wouldn't shock me if the ABs lost next weekend (I wouldn't like it obviously) - we haven't been playing well since the SA thrashing.


Bookies have it NZ by 17

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Wales 14 - NZ 25.

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TheSmurf wrote:

Wales 14 - NZ 25.



A few more points for Wales, perhaps.

Wales 17 - 25 AllBlacks.


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Bouch wrote:
TheSmurf wrote:

Wales 14 - NZ 25.



A few more points for Wales, perhaps.

Wales 17 - 25 AllBlacks.


I can't see NZ failing to score 40 points with the defensive frailty in our backs, and lack of team speed generally. I would prefer a good hiding to shake up the WRU into action..

One can only dream.. ;)

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Post Re: New Zealand hoping for more success.
Langland Exile wrote:
Bouch wrote:
TheSmurf wrote:

Wales 14 - NZ 25.



A few more points for Wales, perhaps.

Wales 17 - 25 AllBlacks.


I can't see NZ failing to score 40 points with the defensive frailty in our backs, and lack of team speed generally. I would prefer a good hiding to shake up the WRU into action..

One can only dream.. ;)



Nothing would shake the WRU into action.


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