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Post Re: Ireland vs South Africa, Saturday November 11th, 2017
Abertawe Leinster wrote:
Brizzle wrote:
Wow Are ireland that good?


We played really well and were in control of that game, from the outset.

Watch us lose against Fiji.... :scratch:

Sean


No, you're not Scotland. :D


Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:19 pm
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Abertawe Leinster wrote:
Brizzle wrote:
Wow Are ireland that good?


We played really well and were in control of that game, from the outset.

Watch us lose against Fiji.... :scratch:

Sean


Fiji looked very poor against Italy. the squad this tour looks pretty old too. Ireland second string should be able to beat them.


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Post Re: Ireland vs South Africa, Saturday November 11th, 2017
najbritcol wrote:
Abertawe Leinster wrote:
Brizzle wrote:
Wow Are ireland that good?


We played really well and were in control of that game, from the outset.

Watch us lose against Fiji.... :scratch:

Sean


No, you're not Scotland. :D

The cheek of a Welsh fan. :D One of the greatest WC games ever, when Fiji beat you lot. Maybe second to the Japanese over the meat eaters.

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Autumn international: Ireland 38-3 South Africa

By Richard Petrie

BBC Sport NI

From the BBC :-

Autumn internationals


Ireland (14) 38
Tries: Conway, Ruddock, Herring, Stockdale
Cons: Sexton, Carbery 2
Pens: Sexton 4


South Africa (0) 3
Pen: Jantjies


Ireland ran in four tries as they recorded their biggest winning margin over South Africa in the first of their three autumn internationals.

It was Ireland's highest points total against the Springboks and their fifth win in seven games with them in Dublin.

Andrew Conway crossed to help the Irish to a 14-0 half-time lead then Rhys Ruddock, Rob Herring and Jacob Stockdale scored late in the game.

Elton Jantjies kicked the only points for Allister Coetzee's hapless side.

Ireland lie fourth in the IRB rankings, one place above their opponents, and have now won six of the last 10 meetings between the sides.

But the gulf between Joe Schmidt's impressive side and that of Coetzee looked greater than one world ranking place on the basis of this match, the late tries giving the final scoreline an accurate reflection of the home side's dominance.

Ireland will be confident of beating Fiji and Argentina in their next two fixtures, while South Africa must regroup for games against France, Italy and Wales.

Ireland well on top

Ireland achieved their first away victory over the Springboks last summer but were keen to atone for the missed opportunity to win the three-Test series, as well as seeking to lay down a marker for a possible World Cup quarter-final in Japan in 2019.

The recommendation of South Africa as the preferred host for the 2023 World Cup in preference to France and Ireland provided the backdrop to the game but in fact the hosts were a class apart on the pitch as they secured a convincing triumph at the Aviva Stadium.

The home side, for whom centre Bundee Aki enjoyed a solid debut, were superior in every facet of the game, more than matching the physicality of the South Africans and enjoying supremacy in the breakdown.

Turnovers were regularly produced by skipper Rory Best and fellow British and Irish Lion CJ Stander, while Iain Henderson carried the ball well and Peter O'Mahony and Sean O'Brien were fearsome in the tackle.

Fly-half Johnny Sexton was unerring with the boot, setting the platform for victory with three penalties from in front of the posts in the first quarter as the indisciplined visitors paid the price for a series of infringements.

The Leinster fly-half maintained his 100% kicking record in the second half with another penalty and a conversion to take his tally to 14 points, with replacement Joey Carbery assuming the mantle late on with a couple of two-pointers of his own.

Springboks struggle under the high ball

South Africa received an aerial bombardment from Sexton and Murray as the Irish half-backs sought to take advantage of the inexperience of Coetzee's back three.

Courtnall Skosan was unable to collect Murray's high ball in the 24th minute and winger Conway was quick to grab the loose ball and show a fine burst of speed to dive over in the corner.

A capacity crowd had to wait until the 71st minute for Ireland's next touchdown, replacement Ruddock displaying good footwork and momentum to drive over the line after a good break involving Robbie Henshaw, Stockdale and Conway.

Another substitute, Ulster hooker Herring, rumbled over for his side's third try after a rolling maul and Stockdale - who earlier executed the tackle of the match - marked his first start on home soil by going over in the corner in the final minute.

South Africa struggles continue

South Africa's disastrous 2016, when they won just four of the 12 Tests they played, included defeats to England, Wales and Italy in their three autumn internationals last year.

Three wins over France in June were backed up by a third place in the Rugby Championship, with a record 57-0 loss to New Zealand being followed by a 25-24 defeat to the All Blacks as the two-time world champions returned to their traditional strengths of aggression and physicality.

This result will be regarded as a regressive step however for a nation which has suffered an exodus of talent to the moneyed English Premiership and Top 14 in recent years.

South Africa lost prop Coenie Oosthuizen to injury in the opening minutes but when they did manage some territory and possession, they were let down by a lack of composure and were met by resolute Irish defence.

The Springboks showed more cohesion in an improved third quarter but their error count was too high and Jantjies' 44th-minute penalty yielded their only points.

What the coaches said

Ireland coach Joe Schmidt: "I was really worried before the game, just because of that last game South Africa had played, and the quality of their players and coaches.

"It is incredibly satisfying to go out, watch the players bring the energy and accuracy, most of the time, that they did.

"I grew up watching South Africa teams pretty dominant when they were at their peak. I don't actually think this Springbok team is very far away from that. It's satisfying, it's a relief."

South Africa coach Allister Coetzee: "Our inconsistency for me is something I'd like to see improve in a big way. The Jekyll and Hyde element, at times we play well.

"I cannot see anything like this changing in a short space of time. It's difficult to explain (the defeat); there are no positives from our side to be honest.

"It's a disappointing defeat, as a group we take full responsibility, we let ourselves down and our support back home. We just have to fight our way back from this one


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How to follow that? An injury free, record 38-3 win over a South African team ranked, eh, fifth in the world cemented Ireland’s hold on fourth place, and provides quite a benchmark for the forthcoming games against Fiji and Argentina.

Ireland returned to camp last night buoyed by such a resounding win, but with little or no risk of euphoria creeping into the squad in their Carton House base this week.

“I don’t really guard against it,” said Joe Schmidt after Saturday’s win at the Aviva Stadium. “We have a really level-headed group and so I have to speak a lot less often than people think. They are very much self led. They have a strong leadership group and a strong culture amongst themselves to stay level-headed, to keep their feet on the ground and to roll their sleeves up when it comes to training to make sure that we can try to be as cohesive and accurate and combative as we can be from week-to-week.

“That won’t probably be any different once we kick off again on Monday. We’ll come back in on Sunday evening, maybe have a quick look at a couple of things and then use that as our starting point for the week.”

In a curious way, the sheer scale of Ireland’s win - more than doubling the biggest winning margin achieved over South Africa by 32-15 at this venue, 11 years ago to the day - somehow detracted from the day.

Beleaguered

“Sometimes when the score does get away it probably just does not have quite the same value, because you were not under as much pressure,” said Schmidt, who added that “the size of the win is not as relevant as people might think because we are always trying to look at our own performance, and the context of what we are allowed to do and what our opponents did to pressure us and how we responded to that.”

Jacob Stockdale scores Ireland’s fourth try. Photograph: Clodagh Kilcoyne/Reuters Jacob Stockdale scores Ireland’s fourth try. Photograph: Clodagh Kilcoyne/Reuters
Schmidt had a good deal of sympathy for his counterpart Allister Coetzee, who now looks to be in even more of a beleaguered position, as well as his assistants, and maintained any team can have an off day, or that even when the margins are fine games can get away from teams.

But even the exacting Schmidt had to admit every Irish play made very positive contributions to this win, adding: “I don’t think there was anyone who didn’t have a really solid performance. It doesn’t take too many patchy players in the opposition who didn’t quite have an on-day for little gaps to appear.”

The Irish coach would be of a mind to use all of the squad in this window, but although there’ll be quite a few changes for the meeting with Fiji, that is not a done deal.

Energy

“When we first came in two weeks ago, we said bottom line is you’ve to earn what you get,” he explained. “You’ve to really commit to what we’re trying to achieve and the energy levels have to be good. Guys have bought into that really well. Nobody’s let the side down. It will allow us to expand a little bit, but there’s a degree of comfort in that uncomfortable arena the Test match ensures, for players to have a bit of a spine of experience, for guys who’ve been there and under pressure before, who know what the best decision is and everyone commits to that decision.”

Source: The Irish Times.


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In case you missed it.


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Post Re: Ireland vs South Africa, Saturday November 11th, 2017
Forgot to add, we’ll done Ireland! :occasion5: Massive win and will no doubt give you lot a good shot in the arm.

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SAs openly racist selection policy is really starting to bite them over the last 12 months or so.

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Was this a battle to see who earned the right to host the next world cup?


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Post Re: Ireland vs South Africa, Saturday November 11th, 2017
Have seen South Africans blaming quotas for poor performances literally dozens of times, but have never seen a single specific black player named who they think is only in the team because of the quotas, nor a single white player they think deserves to be in the team but isn't because of quotas.

Surely if the quotas are to blame it should be easy to name a dozen specific players in the squad who are not as good as some white players who aren't in the squad. If the black players are good enough, then it can't be the quotas' fault that SA are losing.


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