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He is playing for a better team though. That will help.


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Priestland has recovered his confidence and plays well for Bath. He controlled the game well when beating Leicester last week.

Pivac and staff have done well to get players to improve, and Aaron Shingler is another in this category

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The difference between the two philosophies :

Pivac's is progressive.

Gatland's is stagnant.

However, that is not to say that Pivac is ready for International coaching at the mo, we've seen Welsh Club dominance before that never got translated into International success, cue ....Neath.


The Cardiff/Swansea era was a different case of contentrated privilege?


To be fair, Pivac and Young are probably the two main candidates (along with Howley I guess) for the job when Gatland shuffles off in 2019. Two years is not a bad timeframe to be honest as it gives them the chance to further enhance their reputations. Young should really be looking at winning major silverware with Wasps in that period (Aviva and Champions Cup should be in their grasp), whereas Pivac should be aiming to consolidate that Scarlets as a top four side, while aiming to reach the knockout stages in Europe.

As it stands, my choice in 2019 would be a Dai Young, Stephen Jones (backs), Danny Wilson (forwards) coaching team.


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Dai has done well, but needs to win something.

Stephen Jones refused to got to Samoa with the McBryde rocket scientist, which may count against him.

Howley is Howley, just not emotionally up to the job, before we even look at results. Some people are not top dog/CEO material, and he is one of them.

Pivac would be a better choice.

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Priestland has recovered his confidence and plays well for Bath. He controlled the game well when beating Leicester last week.

Pivac and staff have done well to get players to improve, and Aaron Shingler is another in this category


He's had much better games for the Scarlets in the past than his current performances for Bath but, for whatever reason, put him in a Wales shirt and he invariably goes to pieces. Not a dig at the bloke just a personal observation.


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Langland Exile wrote:
Dai has done well, but needs to win something.



Ah.


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Dai has done well, but needs to win something.

Stephen Jones refused to got to Samoa with the McBryde rocket scientist, which may count against him.

Howley is Howley, just not emotionally up to the job, before we even look at results. Some people are not top dog/CEO material, and he is one of them.

Pivac would be a better choice.


Doesn't mean much these days I guess, but Wasps did finish top of the table last season.


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does being a successful club coach mean you will be good at international level, as in Club needs a tight head open up cheque book tight head is there ,

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jimcardiff wrote:
does being a successful club coach mean you will be good at international level, as in Club needs a tight head open up cheque book tight head is there ,


Its People's Choice Syndrome

Havn't had one since 2007, that worked out well :D

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tom21 wrote:
Langland Exile wrote:
Dai has done well, but needs to win something.

Stephen Jones refused to got to Samoa with the McBryde rocket scientist, which may count against him.

Howley is Howley, just not emotionally up to the job, before we even look at results. Some people are not top dog/CEO material, and he is one of them.

Pivac would be a better choice.


Doesn't mean much these days I guess, but Wasps did finish top of the table last season.


But got beaten when it mattered..Wasps front 5 is iffy and Dai has done a good job patching the team together.

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tom21 wrote:
Langland Exile wrote:
Dai has done well, but needs to win something.

Stephen Jones refused to got to Samoa with the McBryde rocket scientist, which may count against him.

Howley is Howley, just not emotionally up to the job, before we even look at results. Some people are not top dog/CEO material, and he is one of them.

Pivac would be a better choice.


Doesn't mean much these days I guess, but Wasps did finish top of the table last season.


But got beaten when it mattered..Wasps front 5 is iffy and Dai has done a good job patching the team together.


I don't think there's a cut and dried argument.

Pivac does have considerable S Hemp experience.

Upcoming Season significant for both.

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jimcardiff wrote:
does being a successful club coach mean you will be good at international level, as in Club needs a tight head open up cheque book tight head is there ,


Not always as has been proven in Wales on a number of occasions. It is more than likely that successful club coaches will be considered for international positions though isn't it?


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Pivac's name will be in the frame along with Howley and Young you would have thought. Heard the guy at Glasgow is causing some interest and there's always some outside the box candidates


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tom21 wrote:
jimcardiff wrote:
does being a successful club coach mean you will be good at international level, as in Club needs a tight head open up cheque book tight head is there ,


Not always as has been proven in Wales on a number of occasions. It is more than likely that successful club coaches will be considered for international positions though isn't it?


Being a good club coach is surely the only qualification you can use when selecting an international coach. Not every good club coach will make a good international manager. But every shit club coach is going to make a shit international coach.


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Cymru am byth wrote:
tom21 wrote:
jimcardiff wrote:
does being a successful club coach mean you will be good at international level, as in Club needs a tight head open up cheque book tight head is there ,


Not always as has been proven in Wales on a number of occasions. It is more than likely that successful club coaches will be considered for international positions though isn't it?


Being a good club coach or being a kiwi is surely the only qualification some welsh fans can use when selecting an international coach. Not every good club coach will make a good international manager. But every shit club coach is going to make a shit international coach.

Fixed bro.

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