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Four More Years wrote:
I reckon the ban was fair. I think the fact that the loopholes (to avoid the bans) exist is ridiculous. With a bit of effort we could see a much more fair system in place, but the current one size fits all approach is flawed.

That said the ABs have had to face players in other teams that have avoided bans in similar ways, the NZRU would be mugs to not try to do the same for their players.

What SBW did deserved the ban but it wasn't something over the top dirty like we've seen from other players. It gets the media because it's SBW and because it was a Lions test.


Fix the laws so no one can can avoid the bans.


I agree. I think bans should include a type of match.


Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:22 am
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Post Re: Sonny Bill appeals suspension
If banned in an international game, then ban the player from internationals? Very simplistic, maybe include one tier down (S18 etc)? No. of games rather than a certain period?
Would avoid trying to use mickey mouse games as as part of the sanction...

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Irrespective of how good he 'can' play is it not fair to criticise him for his unnecessary infringements against players and the very code itself?

It doesn't matter how good he is at play if his core is rancid.


Pull your head in buckoo, it was an infringement not infringements.

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Justic is the online epitome of a rush defense...

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Justic is the online epitome of a rush defense...


...but susceptible to the grubber or the kick over the top .... lacks the defence to read the subsequent posts before the 'tackle'

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TheSmurf wrote:
Justic is the online epitome of a rush defense...


Class comment, pure class :clown:


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Donkka wrote:
TheSmurf wrote:
Justic is the online epitome of a rush defense...


Class comment, pure class :clown:


Aye .. yer cain't beat a good Wench! :D


Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:13 pm
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Tony Panties wrote:
TheSmurf wrote:
Justic is the online epitome of a rush defense...


...but susceptible to the grubber or the kick over the top .... lacks the defence to read the subsequent posts before the 'tackle'

Sorry Tal discussion from before, and before if was hi jacked a little, off on a tangent anyways
SBWs concussions etc
Our list is huge now, with players retiring in mid 20s, ongoing headaches etc.

ABs that have had several concussion issues over the last few years, aranked from worse
Charlie Ngatai
Dane Coles
Ben Smith
Naholo
Retallic
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SBWs
Fekitoa

That's just the public ones

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Sonny Bill has won his appeal, and will be available to play against Australia. The interesting bit of the judgement:

[54] We are therefore of the view that the Judicial Committee applied the wrong principles in the exercise of its discretion which resulted in an erroneous decision. And that accordingly the appeal should be allowed and paragraph (ii) of the Judicial Committee’s order should be varied so that it reads:

(ii) The Player is suspended for four weeks from all forms of Rugby up to and including 11 August 2017. The Player is free to resume playing on 12 August 2017.


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Stockholm Blue wrote:
Sonny Bill has won his appeal, and will be available to play against Australia. The interesting bit of the judgement:

[54] We are therefore of the view that the Judicial Committee applied the wrong principles in the exercise of its discretion which resulted in an erroneous decision. And that accordingly the appeal should be allowed and paragraph (ii) of the Judicial Committee’s order should be varied so that it reads:

(ii) The Player is suspended for four weeks from all forms of Rugby up to and including 11 August 2017. The Player is free to resume playing on 12 August 2017.


I dont understand the comment ...an. inerpretation might say ....he didn't get the right sentence so the different appeal regarding has he played the 4 games is conceded irrespectively? :scratch:

That is strange

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Tony Panties wrote:
Stockholm Blue wrote:
Sonny Bill has won his appeal, and will be available to play against Australia. The interesting bit of the judgement:

[54] We are therefore of the view that the Judicial Committee applied the wrong principles in the exercise of its discretion which resulted in an erroneous decision. And that accordingly the appeal should be allowed and paragraph (ii) of the Judicial Committee’s order should be varied so that it reads:

(ii) The Player is suspended for four weeks from all forms of Rugby up to and including 11 August 2017. The Player is free to resume playing on 12 August 2017.


I dont understand the comment ...an. inerpretation might say ....he didn't get the right sentence so the different appeal regarding has he played the 4 games is conceded irrespectively? :scratch:

That is strange

Gees surprised with that
Many kiwis will be too

It really needs sorted. Hooper had a ban "shortened" like this too.

Personally I'm wrapt for the team, he's our best centre, but for rule clarifications and confusions sheeeees

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From Gwlad ... pick the bones out of this one

https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws ... cision.pdf

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Should be banned a % of the annual games at the same level or higher as your ban. I thought the red was enough, but he got banned, so should have been banned from tests. Not the rules so was open for appeal, and won. :scratch:

The whole system is a farce.

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Tony Panties wrote:
From Gwlad ... pick the bones out of this one

https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws ... cision.pdf

Jebus that's pretty full on lol
Skipped straight to what games last game tomorrow Counties A vrs B :D
Pleased the Aussie panel was put aside though, we get crazy calls here, (in league mind you) just before Aussie Kiwi league tests where 3 Aussies will ban players ott.

Bring on the Aussies test 1 :D

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WOW, I'M SHOCKED - NOT.

What a farce - again.

Aren't you guys just dismayed? Even the most blatant of brutal offences get treated as if they're trivial.

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