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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
Ollie Griffiths is definitely promising, though if he were excluded due to the sheer weight of competition I would not be complaining.

Lewis Evans and Cudd are decent regional players, though they are both a lot older (29 and 28 respectively) than a lot of the other players being discussed and one can't help but feel that if they were ever going to reach the level of Warburton, Faletau, Tipuric or Moriarty - all of whom were regulars for Wales by their early 20s - then they would have done so by now. If you're talking about them you may as well add Aaron Shingler and Josh Turnbull, another two flankers who always put in a great stint for their Regions (but both of whom arguably having had their chances with the senior international side).

My one concern in the back row is the lack of obvious out-and-out No.8s. Besides Faletau, Dan Baker is the only other player who is clearly an 8. Moriarty can play there but is best at 6, whilst the likes of King and Navidi are also utility forwards who are better as flankers. Still, it's a pretty minor concern compared to our problems at Centre and Tighthead prop.


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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
BigRed wrote:
Prys#1 wrote:
:D

Baker
King
Young
Cracknell
Davies
Navidi
Jenkins

The above list of loosies is not the whole picture, there are four other who may come into the reckoning.
The Dragons trio of Ollie Griffiths, Nic Cudd and Lewis Evans impressed me on JD.
Then also we have Thomas Young (Nigel's spawn) currently making a name for himself at Wasps.
Hmmm just noticed that Young is mentioned above, but I'll leave my post as is.


Plenty of flankers there, it's at No. 8 we struggle for depth after Taulupe and Moriarty are taken out, with Baker barely being up to regional standard for me.
King can cover 8 though and never seems to let the side down, so I'd be quite happy to see King, Young and Cracknell as the starting back row this summer.

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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
I would like to see Dan Evans play.


Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:14 am
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Cymru am byth wrote:
I would like to see Dan Evans play.

He may just get his chance in the Summer Tour.
With Dan it's now or never.
I though he played very poorly against Treviso and not much better against the Blues.
One swallow doesn't make a summer and overall he has had a good summer.


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Old Second Row wrote:
BigRed wrote:
Prys#1 wrote:
:D

Baker
King
Young
Cracknell
Davies
Navidi
Jenkins

The above list of loosies is not the whole picture, there are four other who may come into the reckoning.
The Dragons trio of Ollie Griffiths, Nic Cudd and Lewis Evans impressed me on JD.
Then also we have Thomas Young (Nigel's spawn) currently making a name for himself at Wasps.
Hmmm just noticed that Young is mentioned above, but I'll leave my post as is.


Plenty of flankers there, it's at No. 8 we struggle for depth after Taulupe and Moriarty are taken out, with Baker barely being up to regional standard for me.
King can cover 8 though and never seems to let the side down, so I'd be quite happy to see King, Young and Cracknell as the starting back row this summer.


Luke Hamilton has started quite a bit for Leicester this season.


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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
Old Second Row wrote:
BigRed wrote:
Prys#1 wrote:
:D

Baker
King
Young
Cracknell
Davies
Navidi
Jenkins

The above list of loosies is not the whole picture, there are four other who may come into the reckoning.
The Dragons trio of Ollie Griffiths, Nic Cudd and Lewis Evans impressed me on JD.
Then also we have Thomas Young (Nigel's spawn) currently making a name for himself at Wasps.
Hmmm just noticed that Young is mentioned above, but I'll leave my post as is.


Plenty of flankers there, it's at No. 8 we struggle for depth after Taulupe and Moriarty are taken out, with Baker barely being up to regional standard for me.
King can cover 8 though and never seems to let the side down, so I'd be quite happy to see King, Young and Cracknell as the starting back row this summer.


Luke Hamilton has started quite a bit for Leicester this season.


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Seems like this is fast becoming an utter farce... Wouldn't have happened under Roger's rule, I can tell thee that for a fact!

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Wales still do not know where or when they will be playing Tonga in their opening summer Test...just seven weeks away from the game.

And it’s unclear whether either of the matches on their summer tour will be shown on television in this country, with broadcasters also playing the waiting game.

Wales are scheduled to play Tonga in the Auckland area of New Zealand on Friday, June 16 and then Samoa in Apia eight days later.

But that’s about the only definite information we have at present.

It was decided some months ago that Wales would not be travelling to Tonga to play the opening Test. There had been concerns over the available medical and ground facilities at Nuku’alofa’s Teufaiva Sport Stadium, which is being redeveloped.

And World Rugby confirmed in February that the fixture would be moved to another country, with doubts, in particular, over whether the pitch would be fit for purpose.

The plan was to switch the game to New Zealand, with the word being it would be played in the Auckland area on Friday, June 16, the day before the Lions take on the Maori All Blacks in Rotorua.

Various venues have been suggested for the fixture, including the North Harbour Stadium, in Albany, the ECOlight Stadium, in Pukekohe, and the famous Eden Park.

But there is still no confirmation.

The situation has been further complicated by reports that the match could be part of a double header, with New Zealand taking on Samoa at the same ground on the same day.

The All Blacks are keen on having a warm-up match ahead of their opening Test against the Lions the following week and the New Zealand RU confirmed earlier this month it was in discussions with the Samoan Union over a possible fixture.

This followed Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sa’ilele Malielegaoi saying the match would be going ahead.

Just to add to the mix, Eurosport actually have a New Zealand v Samoa game down in their listings for Thursday, June 15, with the venue named as the ECOlight Stadium in Pukekohe, a town at the southern edge of the Auckland region.

But there is still no definite confirmation of a fixture taking place, whether it will be part of a double header with Tonga-Wales or where or when either Test will be staged.

It all leaves the Welsh Rugby Union, caretaker coach Robin McBryde and the rest of the tour management playing a waiting game.

They are working on the basis of facing Tonga in the Auckland region on Friday, June 16, and they have arranged to stay in that area in the build-up.

But they still don’t know the venue or the kick-off time and are waiting on clarification from World Rugby.

They are also waiting to learn what time their game against Samoa will kick off in Apia on Saturday, June 24.

A general view of Apia Park during the International Test match between Samoa and New Zealand July 8, 2015
To add to the mix, that match doesn’t actually feature on the World Rugby international fixture list.

This all has a knock-on effect for other parties, including broadcasters and supporters groups.

It appears the TV rights for Wales’ two summer Tests are being managed by two different bodies, just to give another little twist to the situation.

At present, no broadcast arrangements are in place for either game.

My understanding is BBC Wales are interested in providing TV and radio coverage of both tour matches.

But first they need to nail down exactly who is managing the rights and what the costs and production facilities would be, before considering whether to formally bid.

They also need to know the little matter of where and when the games are being played, as kick-off times clearly have an impact on broadcast slots.

New Zealand is 11 hours ahead of the UK and Samoa 12 hours ahead, so evening kick-offs would be more conducive, as that would enable early morning transmission back home.

At the moment, uncertainty reigns.

It also has an impact on supporters groups planning to follow Wales’ tour. They need to know where to be and when to be there, with travelling arrangements and match tickets to sort out.

As of now, everyone remains in the dark and the clock is ticking.

WalesOnline have contacted World Rugby for clarification and we are awaiting a response.


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugb ... r-12953290


Mon May 01, 2017 2:33 pm
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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
There is often complaining about teams not touring the Pacific Islands, but this is maybe why.


Mon May 01, 2017 11:44 pm
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Not sure if it's been mentioned else where on here but Wilson isnt going on tour anymore

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/ne ... ummer-tour


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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
Prys#1 wrote:
Not sure if it's been mentioned else where on here but Wilson isnt going on tour anymore

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/ne ... ummer-tour


Wow, he actually takes his role as Blues manager seriously.


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najbritcol wrote:
Prys#1 wrote:
Not sure if it's been mentioned else where on here but Wilson isnt going on tour anymore

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/ne ... ummer-tour


Wow, he actually takes his role as Blues manager seriously.


very very shortsighted decision :thumbdown:

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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
Langland Exile wrote:
najbritcol wrote:
Prys#1 wrote:
Not sure if it's been mentioned else where on here but Wilson isnt going on tour anymore

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/ne ... ummer-tour


Wow, he actually takes his role as Blues manager seriously.


very very shortsighted decision :thumbdown:

Methinks there could be other reasons. :dontknow:


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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
BigRed wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
Great opportunity for a couple of centers to grasp at 2 places awe are desperate for something new in.

Williams the U20 looks to the manor born but is it too early for him?

I like the looks of Williams but he still has another year in U20 so he is very young.



He needs quite a serious shoulder operation..... Is out of the next under 20 WC apparently. Don't think it's time for him yet anyway, but he's a bright light for the future.

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Post Re: Wales XXIII for Summer tour.
Thomas Young hatrick for Wasps today in a MOM performance must put him in the frame for a place on the plane for the summer tour.
http://www.standard.co.uk/rugby-world-c ... 32471.html


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Steff Evans has to be one wing I would think....it might be worth seeing if any of the good Newport young players might thrive somewhere else

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