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I know this won't go down well with most dragons fans, but having been thinking about this for a while.

My thoughts are that creating a centre for youth development would give young players and opportunity to perform week after week against top opposition. For example we don't really have young second rows/props coming through, with jake ball, alun wyn jones and luke charteris being our main players there, which is an average age of 30.

It would also give U20 players and instant opportunity to carry on from where they left off with Wales.

Even Gavin Henson is a good signing for them is that really going to make any difference to their fortunes?

Logistically it could work that current regions continue their recruitment policy, with those regions then getting and opportunity to re-sign them at the age of 21, with new youth players then coming in to replace them.

Of course I doubt this would ever happen, but this would aid the national team so much and would produce player after player season after season.


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Maybe... could give opportunities to young players to play

Would help if ospreys, scarlets and the blues played in top tier European competition for more than 6 matches as well


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I've always been puzzled how by putting a bunch of inexperienced players who can not break into regional team together, will create better players. The incentive it would appear is to scrabble to get yourself out of a very negative situation.

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If by development side you mean managed by WRU with choice of players and coaches from any WRU asset, yes.
If you mean fill it with u21 players and chosen potential, maybe.
If you mean stick anyone who can not gat a job at another region or is too old to be a potential, or consistently broken, no.

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I don't see how you would persuade the other regions to keep their academy sides going if all the best products are then sent somewhere else.

There would at least have to be a clear pathway back to the region of origin at the end of a contract. A right of first refusal on the player, or something like that.


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I don't see how you would persuade the other regions to keep their academy sides going if all the best products are then sent somewhere else.

There would at least have to be a clear pathway back to the region of origin at the end of a contract. A right of first refusal on the player, or something like that.



End of tenure plus 2 years then back to region for X years, Or financial remuneration from WRU?
Also remember they would not take ALL the product, presumably only those the regions wish to "rent out" or improve at senior level

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I've always been puzzled how by putting a bunch of inexperienced players who can not break into regional team together, will create better players. The incentive it would appear is to scrabble to get yourself out of a very negative situation.


Agree'd, also, who else in the world runs a development side in a pro league? Please don't say Connacht as they were not a development side, if you think they were take a look at the players who played there and also take a look at the other 3 academy sides.

A fitfor purpose semi pro set up or A sides sould be the development tool.

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Some good points and maybe a development region isn't what's needed. How about a proper functioning region with players of regional standard with a few internationals... one can but dream


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Blindside wrote:
I've always been puzzled how by putting a bunch of inexperienced players who can not break into regional team together, will create better players. The incentive it would appear is to scrabble to get yourself out of a very negative situation.


Agree'd, also, who else in the world runs a development side in a pro league? Please don't say Connacht as they were not a development side, if you think they were take a look at the players who played there and also take a look at the other 3 academy sides.

A fitfor purpose semi pro set up
or A sides sould be the development tool.



An obvious remedy, yet politically unpalatable one........ problem is, it wouldnt suit the blazers, the sons of bitches are dug in like Alabama ticks !

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The idea of a development side in theory is great. However, in practise, I think it would be difficult. They would probably get a hammering every week, more than now, as invariably the team is inexperienced.


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They need to stop dicking about with the domestic league structure. They have all but wiped out meaningful competition and playing career progression with their obsession at moving goal posts. Club rugby is a joke these days.

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Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
Blindside wrote:
I've always been puzzled how by putting a bunch of inexperienced players who can not break into regional team together, will create better players. The incentive it would appear is to scrabble to get yourself out of a very negative situation.


Agree'd, also, who else in the world runs a development side in a pro league? Please don't say Connacht as they were not a development side, if you think they were take a look at the players who played there and also take a look at the other 3 academy sides.

A fitfor purpose semi pro set up
or A sides sould be the development tool.



An obvious remedy, yet politically unpalatable one........ problem is, it wouldnt suit the blazers, the sons of bitches are dug in like Alabama ticks !


The antidote will be available in a couple of months on the NHS ;)

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They need to stop dicking about with the domestic league structure. They have all but wiped out meaningful competition and playing career progression with their obsession at moving goal posts. Club rugby is a joke these days.


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