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Post Countries that have deteriorated the most since RWC 2015
(1) Wales. We have plenty of pages about this of course, so no need to discuss it further.

(2) South Africa. OMG, where to begin? First ever home loss to Ireland, record home loss to New Zealand, second ever loss to Argentina, first loss to England in a decade (for all of Stuart Lancaster's faults, he did get England to beat every team except, for whatever reason, the Springboks), first ever loss to Italy and third ever loss to Wales.

(3) Argentina. Whatever happened to their magnificent offloading game that shellshocked Ireland in particular? They remained the whipping boys of the Rugby Championship, winning only against South Africa at home (though see above), had a massive home defeat to France, then in the Autumn lost against Wales, Scotland and 14-man England.


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SA.

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I don't know much about SA rugby. Why have they deteriorated so precipitously? I mean, it was clear when they lost to Japan that there were problems afoot (without wanting in any way to undermine Japan's achievement), but they still managed to make 3rd place and I don't remember seeing much talk of them having deteriorated during WC2015 - it's only with hindsight that the Japan game looked like the start of something.

Since then it's clear that some serious rot has set in. What's going on? They have a huge player base, so big that they can export players all over the place.


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The entire country is *fupped*. Attitudes, morals, standards in every facet.
It seeps in everywhere. There's no way someone, or a team, can perform when everything, everywhere you look, is rotting.

Sorry, a sore point so I'm not really able to give an objective opinion.


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Figaro wrote:
I don't know much about SA rugby. Why have they deteriorated so precipitously? I mean, it was clear when they lost to Japan that there were problems afoot (without wanting in any way to undermine Japan's achievement), but they still managed to make 3rd place and I don't remember seeing much talk of them having deteriorated during WC2015 - it's only with hindsight that the Japan game looked like the start of something.

Since then it's clear that some serious rot has set in. What's going on? They have a huge player base, so big that they can export players all over the place.


(1) Racial quotas meaning that not-so-good Black players are increasingly picked over better White players. (2) Weak economy and currency leading to many rugby players going to Europe and Japan who in the past would have stayed home.


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Wales without doubt.
Thick coaches with no idea of what they are doing.


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SimplyRed wrote:
Wales without doubt.

Really?


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South Africa seem to be going backwards at a rate of knots at the moment.

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