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Osps bottom of their group :(

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We are becoming a laughing stock.

Below Zebre FFS


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What's this becoming!

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I don't think the Scarlets will maintain their position at or near the top. Injuries, international calls, and their lack of interest in pursuing bonus points from minute one, could prove costly come next May !!


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I don't think the Scarlets will maintain their position at or near the top. Injuries, international calls, and their lack of interest in pursuing bonus points from minute one, could prove costly come next May !!


Yeah I will say that the fixture list in the league has been generous to them so far. They lost to a considerably weakened Ulster and very nearly to a horribly out-of-form Ospreys, and have yet to play Leinster, Munster, Glasgow or the Cheetahs. By contrast, apart from Ulster (who they haven't played yet) Glasgow have beaten all of those other teams, and all with bonus points except the Cheetahs.


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awaywardlad wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:


We are becoming a laughing stock.

Below Zebre FFS


Ospreys are terrible atm but I don't see them being below Zebre for much longer.


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JOHNWALES wrote:
I don't think the Scarlets will maintain their position at or near the top. Injuries, international calls, and their lack of interest in pursuing bonus points from minute one, could prove costly come next May !!


Yeah I will say that the fixture list in the league has been generous to them so far. They lost to a considerably weakened Ulster and very nearly to a horribly out-of-form Ospreys, and have yet to play Leinster, Munster, Glasgow or the Cheetahs. By contrast, apart from Ulster (who they haven't played yet) Glasgow have beaten all of those other teams, and all with bonus points except the Cheetahs.


I know it is difficult to grasp for some, but we now have conferences....only Leinster of these do we play twice. Glasgow and Munster are in the other conference, both of whom we beat away from home last year. We won 17 of 22 last year and I believe we will do the same this year.

8,000 crowd for Benetton with the second team on a Friday night was pretty good.

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najbritcol wrote:
JOHNWALES wrote:
I don't think the Scarlets will maintain their position at or near the top. Injuries, international calls, and their lack of interest in pursuing bonus points from minute one, could prove costly come next May !!


Yeah I will say that the fixture list in the league has been generous to them so far. They lost to a considerably weakened Ulster and very nearly to a horribly out-of-form Ospreys, and have yet to play Leinster, Munster, Glasgow or the Cheetahs. By contrast, apart from Ulster (who they haven't played yet) Glasgow have beaten all of those other teams, and all with bonus points except the Cheetahs.


I know it is difficult to grasp for some, but we now have conferences....only Leinster of these do we play twice. Glasgow and Munster are in the other conference, both of whom we beat away from home last year. We won 17 of 22 last year and I believe we will do the same this year.

8,000 crowd for Benetton with the second team on a Friday night was pretty good.


That's the point though - I don't actually think the Scarlets (1st team or 2nd team) are playing anything like as well as they did for much of last season. I certainly wouldn't guarantee them beating Glasgow or Ireland's big two. So far, they have already lost to an Ulster team missing lots of players, very nearly lost to a rather poor Ospreys team, were ran scarily close by Connacht at home, only beat Edinburgh 28-8 despite having a man advantage during most of the match (and two of the tries were ambiguous, moreover), lost to a Toulon team that itself nearly lost to Benetton a week later, and misfired against Bath due to a maladaptive game plan. While I certainly agree that they can improve again with their best players such as Cubby back, based on their current performances we ought not to raise our expectations too highly.


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If you look at last season, the Scarlets got very few BP's as they had to struggle to win almost every league game, including against Newport until late April.

Everyone remembers the games against Munster and Leinster both of whom underestimated us. That will not happen again.

I believe we are on track and yet we have even more call ups than last year given how miserable the other Welsh teams are playing.

Also we are missing Liam Williams a lot, and Cubby for different reasons. With Beirne and Barclay going, the cheque book needs to come out..Ball is rumoured to be leaving also...

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If you look at last season, the Scarlets got very few BP's as they had to struggle to win almost every league game, including against Newport until late April.

Everyone remembers the games against Munster and Leinster both of whom underestimated us. That will not happen again.

I believe we are on track and yet we have even more call ups than last year given how miserable the other Welsh teams are playing.

Also we are missing Liam Williams a lot, and Cubby for differtn reasosn. With Beirne and Barclay going, the cheque book needs to come out..Ball is rumoured to be leaving also...


What's the bottom line looking like at the mo v last Annual Accounts?

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Langland Exile wrote:
If you look at last season, the Scarlets got very few BP's as they had to struggle to win almost every league game, including against Newport until late April.

Everyone remembers the games against Munster and Leinster both of whom underestimated us. That will not happen again.

I believe we are on track and yet we have even more call ups than last year given how miserable the other Welsh teams are playing.

Also we are missing Liam Williams a lot, and Cubby for differtn reasosn. With Beirne and Barclay going, the cheque book needs to come out..Ball is rumoured to be leaving also...


What's the bottom line looking like at the mo v last Annual Accounts?


Hard to say except that they have re-signed Pivac for 2 years and indicated the payer wage budget will rise over that period.
I expect Moriarty to replace Barclay, and a NWQ lock and maybe an 8 to come in.

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Post Re: Pro14 tables after round 8
Moriaty would be a great signing.Ball is very replaceable.

Beirne has been very good and versatile but With Moriaty Cubby Boyde Shingler etc
you should not struggle in the backrow.

I think you have a shout at retaining your title unless the focus
is on Europe in which you still have a chance of winning the group.
10 points against the Italians in December and if the other 2 win their
home games you will be on roughly equal points,win your home game
and away at Bath and the group is yours.Yes a lot of assumptions and
a lot of ifs but very possible.

Whereas we Ospreys are out of it :crybaby:


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Langland Exile wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
Langland Exile wrote:
If you look at last season, the Scarlets got very few BP's as they had to struggle to win almost every league game, including against Newport until late April.

Everyone remembers the games against Munster and Leinster both of whom underestimated us. That will not happen again.

I believe we are on track and yet we have even more call ups than last year given how miserable the other Welsh teams are playing.

Also we are missing Liam Williams a lot, and Cubby for differtn reasosn. With Beirne and Barclay going, the cheque book needs to come out..Ball is rumoured to be leaving also...


What's the bottom line looking like at the mo v last Annual Accounts?


Hard to say except that they have re-signed Pivac for 2 years and indicated the payer wage budget will rise over that period.
I expect Moriarty to replace Barclay, and a NWQ lock and maybe an 8 to come in.


WRU participation presumably for Moriarty

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Tony Panties wrote:
Langland Exile wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
Langland Exile wrote:
If you look at last season, the Scarlets got very few BP's as they had to struggle to win almost every league game, including against Newport until late April.

Everyone remembers the games against Munster and Leinster both of whom underestimated us. That will not happen again.

I believe we are on track and yet we have even more call ups than last year given how miserable the other Welsh teams are playing.

Also we are missing Liam Williams a lot, and Cubby for differtn reasosn. With Beirne and Barclay going, the cheque book needs to come out..Ball is rumoured to be leaving also...


What's the bottom line looking like at the mo v last Annual Accounts?


Hard to say except that they have re-signed Pivac for 2 years and indicated the payer wage budget will rise over that period.
I expect Moriarty to replace Barclay, and a NWQ lock and maybe an 8 to come in.


WRU participation presumably for Moriarty


I understand that the NDC program is coming to an end soon. I would not bring him in if not subsidized.
Scarlets really need some European success and let themselves down badly versus Bath.

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awaywardlad wrote:
Moriaty would be a great signing.Ball is very replaceable.

Beirne has been very good and versatile but With Moriaty Cubby Boyde Shingler etc
you should not struggle in the backrow.

I think you have a shout at retaining your title unless the focus
is on Europe in which you still have a chance of winning the group.
10 points against the Italians in December and if the other 2 win their
home games you will be on roughly equal points,win your home game
and away at Bath and the group is yours.Yes a lot of assumptions and
a lot of ifs but very possible.

Whereas we Ospreys are out of it :crybaby:


Agreed with everything except in bold. Ospreys have a double header against the Saints who are certainly beatable, while Sarries and Clermont will probably take points off each other, and come January who knows what'll happen?


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