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except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.



I disagree with the changes but can see why they are being made. Both were not dangerous, both were mainly achieved by tha hand around body supplement with a arm over the top of the shoulders. Players are going to have to adjust and change their technique. It as effectively become a below the arm pit tackle game.

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as a neutral those cards made a poor game farcical.

The game is now a complete lottery

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Crap all round, simple.


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Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.



I disagree with the changes but can see why they are being made. Both were not dangerous, both were mainly achieved by tha hand around body supplement with a arm over the top of the shoulders. Players are going to have to adjust and change their technique. It as effectively become a below the arm pit tackle game.


so, dive into the tackle and you'll get a positive result

Its taken tackling out of the game

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Fids the Blindside wrote:
as a neutral those cards made a poor game farcical.

The game is now a complete lottery



Yes agree, but is it because players have not adjusted to the different circumstances, or that it can't be encorporated
successfully. I think it's transitional and it will become an accepted part of the game, well it may :)

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Fids the Blindside wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.



I disagree with the changes but can see why they are being made. Both were not dangerous, both were mainly achieved by tha hand around body supplement with a arm over the top of the shoulders. Players are going to have to adjust and change their technique. It as effectively become a below the arm pit tackle game.


so, dive into the tackle and you'll get a positive result

Its taken tackling out of the game


You have a point, but the Llanelli tackle in particular could easily have hit under the arm pits. The pick and go from the base of the rucks are another problem area. :dontknow:

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Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.



I disagree with the changes but can see why they are being made. Both were not dangerous, both were mainly achieved by tha hand around body supplement with a arm over the top of the shoulders. Players are going to have to adjust and change their technique. It as effectively become a below the arm pit tackle game.


so, dive into the tackle and you'll get a positive result

Its taken tackling out of the game


You have a point, but the Llanelli tackle in particular could easily have hit under the arm pits. The pick and go from the base of the rucks are another problem area. :dontknow:


What should the Ulster no.8 have done, just wave him through. He was so low to the ground there was no other way of tackling him.


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Scarlets back in top 4 and need the Blues to do us a favour against Glasgow tomorrow. :cheers:

I could get all embarrassed about winning with a penalty try like that, but been on the end of poor decisions enough time to accept this one gracefully. :D . There was a far worse hit on Steff Evans in the Edinburgh game earlier in the season which prevented a match winning try and went unpunished, so swings and roundabouts.

Also, I think the yellow and penalty try went part way to even up the many many Ulster infringements that went unpunished; many of them in kickable positions.

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ironrobson21 wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.



I disagree with the changes but can see why they are being made. Both were not dangerous, both were mainly achieved by tha hand around body supplement with a arm over the top of the shoulders. Players are going to have to adjust and change their technique. It as effectively become a below the arm pit tackle game.


so, dive into the tackle and you'll get a positive result

Its taken tackling out of the game


You have a point, but the Llanelli tackle in particular could easily have hit under the arm pits. The pick and go from the base of the rucks are another problem area. :dontknow:


What should the Ulster no.8 have done, just wave him through. He was so low to the ground there was no other way of tackling him.
Yes, wave him through, just like Sanjay should have done against SA a few seasons ago. Thems the rules now.

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Also, I think the yellow and penalty try went part way to even up the many many Ulster infringements that went unpunished; many of them in kickable positions.


Such as what?


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ICEverything wrote:

Also, I think the yellow and penalty try went part way to even up the many many Ulster infringements that went unpunished; many of them in kickable positions.


Such as what?

Constant offside at rucktime, props collapsing in the scrum and ref totally ignoring it. etc etc.

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ICEverything wrote:
ironrobson21 wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.



I disagree with the changes but can see why they are being made. Both were not dangerous, both were mainly achieved by tha hand around body supplement with a arm over the top of the shoulders. Players are going to have to adjust and change their technique. It as effectively become a below the arm pit tackle game.


so, dive into the tackle and you'll get a positive result

Its taken tackling out of the game


You have a point, but the Llanelli tackle in particular could easily have hit under the arm pits. The pick and go from the base of the rucks are another problem area. :dontknow:


What should the Ulster no.8 have done, just wave him through. He was so low to the ground there was no other way of tackling him.
Yes, wave him through, just like Sanjay should have done against SA a few seasons ago. Thems the rules now.


If your a no.8 and you do that 5m from your line against a back, good luck getting picked next week.


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ironrobson21 wrote:
ICEverything wrote:
ironrobson21 wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
Blindside wrote:
Fids the Blindside wrote:
except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.



I disagree with the changes but can see why they are being made. Both were not dangerous, both were mainly achieved by tha hand around body supplement with a arm over the top of the shoulders. Players are going to have to adjust and change their technique. It as effectively become a below the arm pit tackle game.


so, dive into the tackle and you'll get a positive result

Its taken tackling out of the game


You have a point, but the Llanelli tackle in particular could easily have hit under the arm pits. The pick and go from the base of the rucks are another problem area. :dontknow:


What should the Ulster no.8 have done, just wave him through. He was so low to the ground there was no other way of tackling him.
Yes, wave him through, just like Sanjay should have done against SA a few seasons ago. Thems the rules now.


If your a no.8 and you do that 5m from your line against a back, good luck getting picked next week.
Or If the No8 does the same tackle next week and gets Y Carded again............

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Fids the Blindside wrote:
except he was held up of course

When you get down to justifying new rules with piss poor arguments you know the new rules are shit.

Refs get hard enough time as it is, these inflexible rules are going to make them look stupid.


I was not arguing !...so no piss poor arguments apply thank you ;)

just underlining that the consequence of an adjudged high tackle in that position was inevitable.

You've now introduced that he was held up ....the tackle impeded a try, both ref and tmo agreed that.

The issue was the high tackle decision ...I'm not disputing that one way or another.

Do we now take it that you adjudge the tackle not worthy of a yellow and, in zddition, a try would not have been scored....the fact that he was held up involved that tackle.

I also stated that the law and priorities for yellow is an ass.

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I've just looked at the incident again. First off the No8 was offside so thats one reason to penalise and yellow card him plus penalty try. Second, Trimble smacked him in the chops and possibly a worse case for a yelow card, plus the No5 came in with a sly punch on the floor, plus as the ball wasn't grounded and in fact not across the try line, there was a case for a yellow card for the No8 not rolling away.

I think Ulster got away lightly with just one yellow card and a penalty try. :D

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