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I'm getting pissed off listening to "well-off" women talking about discrimination and talking about sexualized inappropriate behaviour. Yes something needs to be done and yes its wrong, but even the grey areas have become black, people are talking about signing a contract before having sex! Would suggesting the need for a contract itself be inappropriate as it would make a woman uncomfortable. It appears that the main women complaining about their lot are doing rather well......very highly paid capitalist women are not as highly paid as very highly paid men, well tough shit there's poverty all around us, old people in agony waiting for knees and hips they want "the market" to decide everything except women's wages. Its just that there is some much injustice and corruption in this country the bad beat that women occasionally get is low on my list of priorities. We sell arms to the Saudis who use them to bomb civilians in Yemen into mass starvation and cholera, hardly makes the news, however, a hand placed on a knee in parliament is headline news.

I don't think a man is better than a woman, indeed i spend half my life ingratiating myself to me wife merely for her to talk to me in a civil manner. I enjoy women's sport, i have worked with women and they are just as likely to be fantastic at their jobs as men. I respect women and have no issue in working under a woman (in any sense).

You never see an attractive young man married to a rich unattractive older woman :scratch:

The way to shut them up is to remind them that the life chances of a young man growing up in poverty are far, far worse than a young girl growing up in a middle class family. That hits all the buttons


Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:12 pm
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The way to shut them up is to remind them that the life chances of a young man growing up in poverty are far, far worse than a young girl growing up in a middle class family. That hits all the buttons

Not really a button hitter.
To understand the issue you need to think about the life chances afforded young women growing up in poverty; working class families; middle class families compared to young men growing up in similar circumstances. Generally for each group the young women will have less life chances than the young men.

For example working class men who get p!ssed off that middle class women are doing better than them are missing the bigger issue.
Those working class men should be getting p!ssed off that working class women are doing less well than working class men are.


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eborr wrote:
The way to shut them up is to remind them that the life chances of a young man growing up in poverty are far, far worse than a young girl growing up in a middle class family. That hits all the buttons

Not really a button hitter.
To understand the issue you need to think about the life chances afforded young women growing up in poverty; working class families; middle class families compared to young men growing up in similar circumstances. Generally for each group the young women will have less life chances than the young men.

For example working class men who get p!ssed off that middle class women are doing better than them are missing the bigger issue.
Those working class men should be getting p!ssed off that working class women are doing less well than working class men are.

Men die at a younger age, tend to do more dangerous jobs and are more likely to go to war, men are also more likely to be jailed for the same crime.

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eog wrote:
eborr wrote:
The way to shut them up is to remind them that the life chances of a young man growing up in poverty are far, far worse than a young girl growing up in a middle class family. That hits all the buttons

Not really a button hitter.
To understand the issue you need to think about the life chances afforded young women growing up in poverty; working class families; middle class families compared to young men growing up in similar circumstances. Generally for each group the young women will have less life chances than the young men.

For example working class men who get p!ssed off that middle class women are doing better than them are missing the bigger issue.
Those working class men should be getting p!ssed off that working class women are doing less well than working class men are.

Men die at a younger age, tend to do more dangerous jobs and are more likely to go to war, men are also more likely to be jailed for the same crime.


None of those things is relevant to the pay rates for men and women doing equivalent jobs in supermarkets.
Also you could also apply them all to working class men and women compared to middle class men and women.


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eog wrote:
trampie wrote:
eog wrote:
eborr wrote:
The way to shut them up is to remind them that the life chances of a young man growing up in poverty are far, far worse than a young girl growing up in a middle class family. That hits all the buttons

Not really a button hitter.
To understand the issue you need to think about the life chances afforded young women growing up in poverty; working class families; middle class families compared to young men growing up in similar circumstances. Generally for each group the young women will have less life chances than the young men.

For example working class men who get p!ssed off that middle class women are doing better than them are missing the bigger issue.
Those working class men should be getting p!ssed off that working class women are doing less well than working class men are.

Men die at a younger age, tend to do more dangerous jobs and are more likely to go to war, men are also more likely to be jailed for the same crime.


None of those things is relevant to the pay rates for men and women doing equivalent jobs in supermarkets.
Also you could also apply them all to working class men and women compared to middle class men and women.

But they are relevant to the overall package.

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trampie wrote:
Men die at a younger age, tend to do more dangerous jobs and are more likely to go to war, men are also more likely to be jailed for the same crime.


eog wrote:
None of those things is relevant to the pay rates for men and women doing equivalent jobs in supermarkets.
Also you could also apply them all to working class men and women compared to middle class men and women.

trampie wrote:
But they are relevant to the overall package.

In what way?


Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:48 pm
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If Bill has a job, goes off for an operation and comes back as Billi does he/she get a pay cut?
If Samantha has a job, goes off for an operation and comes back as Sam does he/she get a pay rise?

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eog wrote:
trampie wrote:
Men die at a younger age, tend to do more dangerous jobs and are more likely to go to war, men are also more likely to be jailed for the same crime.


eog wrote:
None of those things is relevant to the pay rates for men and women doing equivalent jobs in supermarkets.
Also you could also apply them all to working class men and women compared to middle class men and women.

trampie wrote:
But they are relevant to the overall package.

In what way?

The pros and cons of the battle of the sexes.

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Vive la difference!! :thumbup:

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Post Re: Im beginning to dislike Women ?
Tesco warehouse operations that they run themselves are very regulated. No skipping outside for a quick fag or disappearing when your line manager is somewhere else like in the supermarket. Any task you do in the warehouse is monitored by scanning your barcode for that specific task so the line managers have a record of your work load and task. Anyone that falls below targets gets a little chat with one of the lucky line managers who gets that job that day.


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trampie wrote:
eog wrote:
trampie wrote:
Men die at a younger age, tend to do more dangerous jobs and are more likely to go to war, men are also more likely to be jailed for the same crime.


eog wrote:
None of those things is relevant to the pay rates for men and women doing equivalent jobs in supermarkets.
Also you could also apply them all to working class men and women compared to middle class men and women.

trampie wrote:
But they are relevant to the overall package.

In what way?

The pros and cons of the battle of the sexes.

Which are?


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Tesco warehouse operations that they run themselves are very regulated. No skipping outside for a quick fag or disappearing when your line manager is somewhere else like in the supermarket. Any task you do in the warehouse is monitored by scanning your barcode for that specific task so the line managers have a record of your work load and task. Anyone that falls below targets gets a little chat with one of the lucky line managers who gets that job that day.


So your argument is that women working in the supermarket skive more than men skive in the warehouse.
And Tesco allows these women to get away with this extra skiving because Tesco thinks - as a business we'll accept a higher level of skiving in the supermarket, it's only fair as we pay them less anyway. :roll:


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eog wrote:
trampie wrote:
eog wrote:
trampie wrote:
Men die at a younger age, tend to do more dangerous jobs and are more likely to go to war, men are also more likely to be jailed for the same crime.


eog wrote:
None of those things is relevant to the pay rates for men and women doing equivalent jobs in supermarkets.
Also you could also apply them all to working class men and women compared to middle class men and women.

trampie wrote:
But they are relevant to the overall package.

In what way?

The pros and cons of the battle of the sexes.

Which are?

What has been listed.

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eborr wrote:
The way to shut them up is to remind them that the life chances of a young man growing up in poverty are far, far worse than a young girl growing up in a middle class family. That hits all the buttons

Not really a button hitter.
To understand the issue you need to think about the life chances afforded young women growing up in poverty; working class families; middle class families compared to young men growing up in similar circumstances. Generally for each group the young women will have less life chances than the young men.

For example working class men who get p!ssed off that middle class women are doing better than them are missing the bigger issue.
Those working class men should be getting p!ssed off that working class women are doing less well than working class men are.



We are kind of getting closer to the point here! Why is it a bigger issue? Yes its an issue, but if working-class men and women have far fewer opportunities in life because of the class system and unfairness with the way society treats its citizens that is the main issue. There is legislation in place to address discrimination between the sexes, but it is a political philosophy to except or not except equality of opportunity. It is made a bigger issue because it masks the total inequality of opportunity within our society. Those who dictate the rules for health and education need not even use the state system.

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Fingal wrote:
Tesco warehouse operations that they run themselves are very regulated. No skipping outside for a quick fag or disappearing when your line manager is somewhere else like in the supermarket. Any task you do in the warehouse is monitored by scanning your barcode for that specific task so the line managers have a record of your work load and task. Anyone that falls below targets gets a little chat with one of the lucky line managers who gets that job that day.


So your argument is that women working in the supermarket skive more than men skive in the warehouse.
And Tesco allows these women to get away with this extra skiving because Tesco thinks - as a business we'll accept a higher level of skiving in the supermarket, it's only fair as we pay them less anyway. :roll:


You seem to assume I was talking about one sex when I was describing the staff time management in warehouses compared to store operations. I was just explaining that the warehouse staff(both male/female/gender fluid) are monitored more rigidly when it comes to productivity in warehouses over store staff(both male and female). They frequently have to work in at least 2 temperature chambers if they work in the fresh operation.

Do you think a female in a warehouse who loads 40ft trailers, unloads, scans and picks stock should get the same rate as someone who does stock counts or packs a couple of cages of stock on the shelf in store then jumps on a checkout when required?


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