I must admit that I had to select it to see it!

Is there more chance of Perpignan winning by 30 clear points than the Scarlets winning the match ?

No need for the end bit, nothing wrong with blowing a trumpet that still has air in it? There are reasons why the Scarlets should fail miserably but, nobody can take away, that in some games, they have punched way above their weight and got results as a result?

Mathematically, I think the Blues still have a remote chance (Don't they? Or have I got that bit wrong?) and who knows, if the Scarlets get an unlikely result in France and the Blues get 4 Edinburgh players red-carded, we could yet have a team in the 1/4's?

(Bugger, just woke-up with a start then!! )

if you look at the tables based on seedings, the seedings appear to right. few discrepancies but appears only Toulon making a mockery of their seedings.

First time in 13 years Munster haven't qualified from a group.

Team P W D L F A BP PTS
(rank2) 1 Northampton 5 5 0 0 132 75 1 21
(R4) 2 Castres 5 2 0 3 93 92 3 11
(R1) 3 Cardiff Blues 5 2 0 3 86 99 2 10
(R3) 4 Edinburgh 5 1 0 4 84 129 3 7

P2 Table Saturday, 15 January 2011 15:16 UK
Team P W D L F A BP PTS
(R1) 1 Leinster 5 4 0 1 143 93 3 19
(R2) 2 Clermont Auvergne 5 3 0 2 90 80 2 14
(R3) 3 Racing Metro 92 5 2 0 3 93 115 1 9
(R4) 4 Saracens 5 1 0 4 93 131 2 6

P3 Table Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:34 UK
Team P W D L F A BP PTS
(R4) 1 Toulon 5 4 0 1 126 105 1 17
(R1) 2 Munster 5 2 0 3 115 108 3 11
(R2) 3 Ospreys 5 2 0 3 88 96 2 10
(R3) 4 London Irish 5 2 0 3 93 113 1 9

P4 Table Saturday, 15 January 2011 17:28 UK
Team P W D L F A BP PTS
(R1) 1 Biarritz 5 3 0 2 114 69 5 17
(R3) 2 Ulster 5 4 0 1 102 109 1 17
(R2) 3 Bath 5 2 0 3 128 82 5 13
(R4) 4 Aironi Rugby 5 1 0 4 59 168 0 4

P5 Table Saturday, 15 January 2011 19:30 UK
Team P W D L F A BP PTS
(R3) 1 Perpignan 5 3 1 1 159 107 3 17
(R1) 2 Leicester 5 3 1 1 153 103 3 17
(R2) 3 Scarlets 5 3 0 2 144 154 3 15
(R4) 4 Benetton Treviso 5 0 0 5 94 186 1 1

P6 Table Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:34 UK
Team P W D L F A BP PTS
(R1) 1 Toulouse 5 5 0 0 139 64 1 21
(R2) 2 Wasps 5 3 0 2 124 90 3 15
(R3) 3 Glasgow 5 2 0 3 93 125 0 8
(R4) 4 Newport-Gwent Dragons

I can't read that table! What it needs is loads of really bright colours to make it stand out.

The Amlin knock outs are going to be intersting looking at potential sides.

So who can get in the amlin then? I presume the scallies?

if they win they might be a best second place side but your looking at Clermont Auvergne and Munster in the Amlin.

Thank you

if we win in perpignan, the only team i wouldnt fancy in the quarters would be toulouse, but icey, any chance of posting that historic victory again

any other teams to avoid?

Yes there obviously was, if I was a bookie I would have thought that there was more chance of Perpignan winning by 30 clear points than there was of the Scarlets winning the match and I was right, Scarlet fans were right to live in hope but they should have said Porthcawl as it was always a racing certainty that they would not just lose but they would get hammered.

Enjoy the smugness oh Guru