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Well, it looks like the Lions are the team to beat from SA this year, but they'll have to play 4/5 of the Kiwi teams this time. I have no idea about Aus - maybe the Reds (their preseason was ok). The Rebels will be awful again.

In NZ I can see it going Crusaders - Canes - Highlanders - Blues/Chiefs. The Crusaders are settled and have a good squad and a very good coach. The Canes are the same. The Highlanders are a mixed bag. The Blues are missing key positions. And I'm not sure about their 10 yet. The Chiefs lost so many players at the end of last season - and DMac at 10...I don't know if he has the head for it. I miss James Lowe too.

For me the only dead sets into the semis for the Kiwi teams are the Crusaders and the Canes. The other three will be fighting it out for a spot.


Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:56 pm
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sup ... ighlanders

Bryn Gatland is now the starting Blues 10.

Not Black or Perofeta. Hmm this will be interesting.


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http://www.superxv.com/crusaders/

Starting to get ready .....


Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:18 am
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I haven’t seen anything about the. Upcoming season, I don’t even know who are in the squads. Been way too busy lately, but I’m guessing the Saders will be well up for it, always are. Canes have been going strong for a few seasons now, after that, no idea at all.

Come on the Canes!

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Bulls vs Lions the big one coming weekend
Bulls beat the Hurricanes in their opener. Hurricanes not sure it looked same personnel as last year but overdid the cross kick or played it wide at all cost to fatty Savea who didn't reproduced his lean and mean as before. It worked more on the other wing/s Goosen and Barret. Bulls looked solid upfront and backline handling was good enough for kiwi

Lions 47 - 26 over Argies test team Jaguars. It makes Bulls Lions a big one. Lions pack looked good in win over Sharks.

Chiefs back to Indian. Crusaders the nz team and Highlanders good starr.
Storners lost by 7 Waratahs and Sharks lost to Lions first one.
Bulls Lions big derby now

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Predictable results. I was surprised the Chiefs were well in it until 71 minutes. We've lost a lot of players and Rennie - we shouldn't have done that well. Perhaps Cooper has learned to coach. DMac was shit at 10 though, his brother would be a better option.

I'm not sure about the high tackle laws these days. If someone is diving at the line like Crotty was there's no way to tackle him.

I made a point after that penalty to look at all contact with the head in tackles for the next 5 minutes. It happens basically every 10-20 seconds - I don't know how it's going to play out, but at the moment it's not a good law.

Sounds like the Canes got screwed by a homer ref in SA. Big surprise there hey? A competition that doesn't have neutral refs - stupid.


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Didn’t see any games. :( *fupping* busy with the in laws at the minute. I heard the landers v blues game was good???

Haven’t read or heard anything about the canes except they lost. :(

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Lions another good win over the blue smurfies at Loftus 49 - 35 . Was at the game. Speed and handling of the Lions were the better after the demolishment of the Bulls or as we Lion supporters call them Smurfs
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Crusaders 45 - 28 Stormers


http://www.planetrugby.com/news/crusaders-first-half-blitz-blows-stormers-away/


Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:27 pm
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Decent win for the Chiefs at Eden Park. I was surprised we got it with 15 players out injured.

I still think we'll be fighting it out with the Blues to avoid the last spot in the NZ conference though. Too many lost players, lost a great coach, and a ridiculous amount of pre and early season injuries.

Crusaders look very strong. They will probably go back to back this year.


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I don't think that's going to be possible, FMY.

Some of our leaders are bound to get bumps and the Chiefs, and others, are struggling with injuries right now, as you say.

When they're full strength their pack of forwards will - as usual - be a handful for everyone.


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Maybe. I really rate this Crusaders setup though. Razor has the goods as a coach that Blackadder was missing. They are going to be very hard to beat.


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OPINION: Credit where it's due, please. We have been so busy sticking the boot into the broken record of ineptitude that is the Blues, the Chiefs' remarkable effort in week three of the new Super Rugby season has perhaps not received its due applause.

Colin Cooper's patched-up, reshuffled and remarkably resilient Chiefs were the standout performers of the just completed round from a Kiwi perspective, even if the Crusaders continue to set the standards up at the top of the standings, and the Hurricanes hinted at better to come sooner rather than later after their surprise week-one stumble.

The latter two should not surprise anyone. The defending champs have simply taken up where they left off in 2017, and the Canes, with all that world-class talent, were never going to stay in any funks for too long.

But the Chiefs had no right winning that game at Eden Park on Friday night, even though it was against a Blues outfit they hadn't lost to since 2011, and which has mastered the art of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. With all the defections and disruptions, and digging so deep into their player pool, Cooper's troopers were so patched together they should have been sponsored by Band-Aid.

They were missing something in the region of 18 first-choice players, down four of their top props, their two excellent starting locks, their top No 6 and a good chunk of their backline firepower. But they weren't missing their pluck, their competitive spirit and their commitment. Nor their ticker.

What is more, they were having to adjust on the fly, losing the inspirational Brodie Retallick late in the piece when his training ground eye injury never cleared, as expected, and then seeing Shaun Stevenson go down in the warmup which resulted in young first-five Tiaan Falcon being thrown in for his debut and Damian McKenzie shifted back to fullback.

You would hardly have known it. The Chiefs came out and got stuck into the contest, hung determinedly in a match that could have gotten away from them early, and then struck with a withering 17 points in the first 16 minutes of the second half to put themselves into a winning position.

From there they dug in 'til the end and repelled a spirited Blues comeback with some dogged defence, and a little help from the shortcomings of the home side.

Yes, the bumbling Blues are a Groundhog Day of incompetence. Every year they swear, well black and blue, that this is going to be the season they launch their turnaround, and every flipping year they come up short of their own bold promises.


It is early days yet, and there is still time for Tana Umaga's outfit to turn this thing around. But initial signs are not promising. It is the same shortcomings and the same lack of smarts, togetherness and gameplan that is holding this group back.

But enough of them. And more about the Chiefs.

That was a special display. On a talent scale they lacked the level of firepower the Blues had scattered through their lineup. But internationals Sam Cane, Damian McKenzie, Nathan Harris, Nepo Laulala and Anton Lienert-Brown took the lead roles, and inspired their less heralded team-mates.

Others played their part in an important victory for the Chiefs heading into the bye. Brad Weber was superb at halfback, making an early statement in the race for that No 3 spot on the national pecking order, Mitchell Brown was hard and physical and unrelenting as only he can be as a makeshift lock, and Solomon Alaimalo looked every bit a wing of international-level class.

And what about Sean Wainui? He wasn't even picked in the original Chiefs squad of 38, but has come in, shaken off a head knock in week one, and played the house down as a starting right wing in the win over the Blues.

The Chiefs now get a much-needed bye to regather and heal. But on the back of 80 special minutes at Eden Park they have already revealed one important quality that will take this group of Cooper's a long, long way indeed.

The Blues are scratching their heads over why they can't get over the line in these close derbies against their Kiwi mates. But one rewatch of the Chiefs performance should tell them all they need to know.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight ...


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Canes over the Crusaders - wow.

Highlanders over Stormers - predictable.

Lions should beat the Blues at home.

Rebel with 3 wins from 3 games - wtf?


Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:35 am
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I missed that one entirely.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/102159119/crusaders-toppled-by-an-energetic-and-muchimproved-hurricanes-side

The Canes done good.

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