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Post Super draw 2018, 15 teams, looks better
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=11925015
15 teams looks better. Still imo Force should have stayed, $$ sponsor for Rebels tho

Just looked at Lions draw, they seem to play out of conference more which is great

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Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:55 am
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I hope it strengthens the cons and meat eaters!

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Post Re: Super draw 2018, 15 teams, looks better
15 teams?

Not 14 and not 16?

15 teams?

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Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:06 am
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Bouch wrote:
15 teams?

Not 14 and not 16?

15 teams?

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As Loosie said above Bouch

Hope it helps

NZ 5 eams and Auss/ Sa 4 each. Then Japan and Argentina
If the SA and Aussie teams can preform better on the table, which is the plan, then maybe it's a better comp. we are still halmstrung by gurented spots in finals by SA and Aussie, but we need to help them, viewers interest too.

At least the Lions will play a kiwi team in round this time.
It was broke but not sure if this will fix it.
For me as long as we play our own teams heaps, all good, good rugby, good interest.

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The sheer stupidity of not having an even number of teams, with all the nonsense that provokes, has been discussed at length before, me old butty.

Why repeat a daft mistake?


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Bouch wrote:
The sheer stupidity of not having an even number of teams, with all the nonsense that provokes, has been discussed at length before, me old butty.

Why repeat a daft mistake?

I spose for my nz insular view..
We have dominated the comp, prob none more so than last year.

If it was based on evenness of teams
Prob NZ 5, SA 4 and Aussie 3

Probs are imo
Aussie can't field 5 good teams
SA politics and admin, a shambles, the 2 teams coming your ways means 4 teams in our comp maybe 1 too many now

Ideally 5 teams each would be great for us, we have to have 5 teams, we dominate already and have the players.

But Aussie and SA falling.

Aussie were the best team in the world when they only had 3 super teams.
NZ laws could possibly allow NZ era to play for Aussie teams and still rep NZ, ( can't ATM).

Said it for a couple years Bouch we hold this together atm, possibly it's unstable. 5 years time SA teams and possibly Argentina maybe all in your guys comps, quota and all. And we are left to slog it out and support Aussie, Asia, PIs and America. Then your comps will be superior to ours definitely, cause more of SH players will go north too

Just hope Aussie and SA can stabilise and get this comp back to best in world.

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Post Re: Super draw 2018, 15 teams, looks better
Everybody has ups and downs as other activities become more popular, Forreal.

The main international competition down under is affected by that and there's no harm in weeding out strugglers.

However, the whole idea of having an odd number of teams in any league results in stupid anomalies.

Our ability to shoot ourselves in the foot is now being copied down there.

Please learn by our mistakes.

Start combining teams? That's an emotional thing to do but Australia clearly need to lose one.

It's a shame, but that's a good solution.

Will Rupert support it though?


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Bouch wrote:
Everybody has ups and downs as other activities become more popular, Forreal.

The main international competition down under is affected by that and there's no harm in weeding out strugglers.

However, the whole idea of having an odd number of teams in any league results in stupid anomalies.

Our ability to shoot ourselves in the foot is now being copied down there.

Please learn by our mistakes.

Start combining teams? That's an emotional thing to do but Australia clearly need to lose one.

It's a shame, but that's a good solution.

Will Rupert support it though?

Can't see us joining any teams in NZ. Thus is the format for next year, there must be some jitters by the powers that be for the comp, it's not what it use to be, that's for sure.

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Post Re: Super draw 2018, 15 teams, looks better
Another example of NZ ruining rugby by their dominance!
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Maybe ythey could play A and B teams and at International level too?

Sorry couldn't resist, not meant, promise! ;)

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Tony Panties wrote:
Another example of NZ ruining rugby by their dominance!
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Maybe ythey could play A and B teams and at International level too?

Sorry couldn't resist, not meant, promise! ;)

It's a perfect storm though

SA stuffed it up last year with 6 teams and having 2 conferences, and guareneted places in finals.
And quota, joining comps in NH. Quality rugby decline
Aussie just a shambles re quality, players teams.
So maybe we are the best of a bad lot atm.

We've agreed to Aussie having 5, SA 6 and conferenced guarantee places in finals.

Maybe this is just being real.. :dontknow:

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Post Re: Super draw 2018, 15 teams, looks better
Bouch wrote:
The sheer stupidity of not having an even number of teams, with all the nonsense that provokes, has been discussed at length before, me old butty.

Why repeat a daft mistake?

:D It's no longer a round robin comp so even numbers means sfa. It's a conference system, so 3 groups of 5 is pretty much the only way to do it. Although I'd prefer a round robin, its not as easy as people think with the pumas and the Japanese. It's a shiteload better than what we just had.

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loosechange wrote:
Bouch wrote:
The sheer stupidity of not having an even number of teams, with all the nonsense that provokes, has been discussed at length before, me old butty.

Why repeat a daft mistake?

:D It's no longer a round robin comp so even numbers means sfa. It's a conference system, so 3 groups of 5 is pretty much the only way to do it. Although I'd prefer a round robin, its not as easy as people think with the pumas and the Japanese. It's a shiteload better than what we just had.

It's a bit hard, I think some people do think, just from not knowing it like we do, that we have screwed everybody. But reality is the SARU peeps over commuted and still are imo in NH, but we shall see, and Aussie don't have the depth. Possibly as Tel said above an Aussie team can have the backing of a team like Taranaki and have some kind of understanding :dontknow: , not to sure we have the depth but if there's a few more contracts on the table maybe a few more players won't take their talent off shore. It's a hell of a lot better than last year tho

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loosechange wrote:
Bouch wrote:
The sheer stupidity of not having an even number of teams, with all the nonsense that provokes, has been discussed at length before, me old butty.

Why repeat a daft mistake?


:D It's no longer a round robin comp so even numbers means sfa. It's a conference system, so 3 groups of 5 is pretty much the only way to do it. Although I'd prefer a round robin, its not as easy as people think with the pumas and the Japanese. It's a shiteload better than what we just had.


Er, you do realise that some teams will still have free weekends? Some fans will have blank looks at that, you included by the look of it.


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It's a better format, but I'd still rather see the conferences gone.


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I like the Lions playing the nz teams. It will bring out the best in them. Played all of nz in 2016 but only semis final this year. I am happy for players such as Ruan Combrink, Rohan jansen van Rensburg (RjvR), Harold Vorster, Kwagga Smith, Jaques van Rooyen and Dylan Smith to measure up against nz

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