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Boks vs Argies, round one 
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Springboks:
15 Andries Coetzee
14 Raymond Rhule
13 Jesse Kriel
12 Jan Serfontein
11 Courtnall Skosan
10 Elton Jantjies
9 Ross Cronjé
8 Uzair Cassiem
7 Jaco Kriel
6 Siya Kolisi
5 Franco Mostert
4 Eben Etzebeth (captain)
3 Coenie Oosthuizen
2 Malcolm Marx
1 Beast Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi
17 Steven Kitshoff
18 Trevor Nyakane
19 Pieter-Steph Du Toit
20 Jean-Luc du Preez
21 Francois Hougaard
22 Curwin Bosch
23 Damian de Allende


Not too sure about Rhule, doesn't bring all that in attack, and his defence is poor.
I'm also not the biggest fan of Kriel at 13.
Cassiem at 8 (he's normally a blindside)... I normally don't like out of position spots, especially at international level, but I reckon he's a cool head.

Oosthuizen at TH, eish. We'll see.
Not sure what Hougaard and de Allende have done to deserve their bench spots. 'Eperience' maybe?

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Argentina
15 Joaquin Tuculet
14 Ramiro Moyano
13 Matias Orlando
12 Jeronimo de la Fuente
11 Emiliano Boffelli
10 Nicolas Sanchez
9 Martin Landajo
8 Leonardo Senatore
7 Tomas Lezana
6 Pablo Matera
5 Tomas Lavanini
4 Guido Petti
3 Enrique Pieretto
2 Agustin Creevy (captain)
1 Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro

Substitutes: Julian Montoya, Lucas Noguera, Ramiro Herrera, Marcos Kremer, Javier Ortega Desio, Tomas Cubelli, Juan Martin Hernandez, Matias Moroni

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All the meat eaters looking forward to this smurf?

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Not massively in my circles. It's a Bok game so a big deal but....
Decent crowd though. Not a great start to the game, no spark. Good Argie try though.
Glad Skosan got his first test try :thumbright:

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Argies looking better now but scrum is awful, unusual for them

6 5 after 34, Argies missed some oens too.

Plenty of opportunities for zboks but sound Arg defence.

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13 - 5 at half time.

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13 - 5.


Nice try poor tackle ...let him go

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Decent try to Rhule, first Bok try well done!
23 - 8 and changes rung, subs coming on.

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And there's the Argies 2nd try, good handling. 23 - 15.

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Apologies Smurf and ano ...I inadvertently got pinned into cricket thread with commentary nthis match ...'The Gooch eng scores' thread there

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Tony Panties wrote:
Argies looking better now but scrum is awful, unusual for them

6 5 after 34, Argies missed some oens too.

Plenty of opportunities for zboks but sound Arg defence.


The Springbok tighthead improved his scrumming by a country mile. He was a lh before but improved in technique. Tight 5 good scrumming. Things can improved from bench but political restricions. Marx best nr2 seen from ABs Wallabies game incl. Du Preez at 8 a great impact from bench. I liked the variety in backline moves which only came later in the game before that predictable. Jantjes goalkicking excellent

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Post Re: Boks vs Argies, round one
In general I thought that Bok progress was underlined.
Chances created... Arg defence was strong until overpowered late on.
Scrum excellent ...usually an Argie domain.
Team ethic continues to look positive and strong. I liked the confidence to go for tries and not pens .. that's a good sign of team confidence.

Argies were good at counter attack and SA were sometimes turned around quickly.

Forward unit looks strong and centres penetrative.

Junties kicking is now consistent.

Reffing was iffy and Arg should have had yellows for consistent red zone pens.

Arg not the side they used to be.

I enjoyed the match more than the ABs game... although not the same class it was more 'real rugby' .. ;)

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PS felt sorry for Bosch, ... hope it doesn't get to him.
Ntamack the french 10 who had a good last W Cup v SA etc has been included into the French top 45 squad and is being nutured ... just 18 recently and is being fastpathed but not too much so, ...

They both look great prospects based on their W Cup performances ...will be interesting to see how it pans out....

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Post Re: Boks vs Argies, round one
Tony Panties wrote:
In general I thought that Bok progress was underlined.
Chances created... Arg defence was strong until overpowered late on.
Scrum excellent ...usually an Argie domain.
Team ethic continues to look positive and strong. I liked the confidence to go for tries and not pens .. that's a good sign of team confidence.

Argies were good at counter attack and SA were sometimes turned around quickly.

Forward unit looks strong and centres penetrative.

Junties kicking is now consistent.

Reffing was iffy and Arg should have had yellows for consistent red zone pens.

Arg not the side they can be at World Cups.



Fixed. However good Argentina have been in the last three World Cups, they generally do bugger all in the interim years - chances are they shall win the wooden spoon again in this year's Rugby Championship, and if they win more than one match in this year's AIs I will be very surprised.


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Post Re: Boks vs Argies, round one
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Tony Panties wrote:
In general I thought that Bok progress was underlined.
Chances created... Arg defence was strong until overpowered late on.
Scrum excellent ...usually an Argie domain.
Team ethic continues to look positive and strong. I liked the confidence to go for tries and not pens .. that's a good sign of team confidence.

Argies were good at counter attack and SA were sometimes turned around quickly.

Forward unit looks strong and centres penetrative.

Junties kicking is now consistent.

Reffing was iffy and Arg should have had yellows for consistent red zone pens.

Arg not the side they can be at World Cups.



Fixed. However good Argentina have been in the last three World Cups, they generally do bugger all in the interim years - chances are they shall win the wooden spoon again in this year's Rugby Championship, and if they win more than one match in this year's AIs I will be very surprised.
yep it's a pity how they haven't advanced in our rugby championship

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