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Starts 1 July

Will miss us this year ...nearest is Blagnac


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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Always worth a watch for the scenery too

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can't wait, could be interesting.

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Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:23 pm
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Apparently ITV will be showing most of the days racing from the "Grande Depart" to the finish. Thats going to mean an awful lot of waffle from the commentators
I've been a fan off and on since Big Mig in the early 90's though that has been tested a couple of times firstly by Richard Virenque and then by Lance Armstrong. Because of them and others there will always be a doubt in the back of your mind
Tel is right about the scenery, a couple of years a go they went down something called Gorge de St George it was just a river with steep vertical sides and a road somehow squeezed in on the side amazing I've also been up the Col du Tourmalet a couple of times skiing in La Mongie when we used to spend the weekend playing rugby in Trie-sur-Baïse

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Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:56 pm
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British cycling hey.....
Team Sky hey...hmm

Oh aye.

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stage 9 looks like it could be interesting or brutal.

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Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:59 am
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cav makes it for dimenson and cummings (will be wearing the national jersey in both the road and time trail cracking effort), will he be match sharp be interesting if he can add to his stage wins, 30 is a hell of a good showing,
wonder if cummings will be given a crack at a breakaway stage.
scott yates can he emulate his brother and maybe win the young riders jersey.

bring on the tour

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Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:07 pm
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Always fascinates me how today the riders are so good that time trial specialists can climb like pure climbers and pure climbers can time trial like time trial specialists.

A Clean Break by Christophe Basson is an excellent read.


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daicymraeg wrote:
Always fascinates me how today the riders are so good that time trial specialists can climb like pure climbers and pure climbers can time trial like time trial specialists.



They still don't, generally? Quintana is still a pretty lousy time trialist and Tony Martin isn't going to be beating Froome or Contador up the Zoncolan anytime soon.

Being pretty good at both gets you in the hunt for GC, but there are still purists out there.


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daicymraeg wrote:
Always fascinates me how today the riders are so good that time trial specialists can climb like pure climbers and pure climbers can time trial like time trial specialists.



They still don't, generally? Quintana is still a pretty lousy time trialist and Tony Martin isn't going to be beating Froome or Contador up the Zoncolan anytime soon.

Being pretty good at both gets you in the hunt for GC, but there are still purists out there.


True. In general there are still differences between the specialists.

But it leaves me questioning the authenticity of the race when I see a climber like Quintana, who is not only unable to drop a time trialist such as Dumoulin, but actually loses time to him when tackling the huge mountain stages in the Giro.

In my opinion the lines between the disciplines have become unnaturally blurred.

Still enjoy watching it though ;)


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I get the feeling that this course has been designed for anyone but Froome to win it.

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daicymraeg wrote:
TJP wrote:
daicymraeg wrote:
Always fascinates me how today the riders are so good that time trial specialists can climb like pure climbers and pure climbers can time trial like time trial specialists.



They still don't, generally? Quintana is still a pretty lousy time trialist and Tony Martin isn't going to be beating Froome or Contador up the Zoncolan anytime soon.

Being pretty good at both gets you in the hunt for GC, but there are still purists out there.


True. In general there are still differences between the specialists.

But it leaves me questioning the authenticity of the race when I see a climber like Quintana, who is not only unable to drop a time trialist such as Dumoulin, but actually loses time to him when tackling the huge mountain stages in the Giro.

In my opinion the lines between the disciplines have become unnaturally blurred.

Still enjoy watching it though ;)


I think Quintana and Movistar's tactics were poor, and he clearly wasn't in the best form. Plus, a lot of those climbs were long drags which allowed Dumoulin to set his rhythm and do what he needed to. The difference would be more evident on shorter, sharper climbs or climbs with lots of sections and ramps to them.


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Just read an article on the Tour and a litany of facts about it, here's a selection :

12m spectators

3,540km over 21 stages
3,600 additional road signs
4 countries visited
34 french departments visited
2,642m high col du Galibier
198 competitors (22 teams of 9)
300 support staff
23,000 police and gendarmes en route
10 Doctors
7 Ambulances, I xray lorry
500 hotels
7 planes for transfers

Tour Publicity

-170 vehicules
35 different outlets
600 people
12 km cortege
18m objects distributed


4,000 m barriers
2,000 journalistes
14 acres on average allocated to arrival point
600 different medias
91 photo agencies
94 TV channels
60km of cabling associated with arrival zone
500 involved in direct photography

and Security ? ... virtually impossible?

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Brits to look out for
Dimension Data (RSA): Mark Cavendish, Stephen Cummings, Scott Thwaites

Orica-Scott (Aus): Simon Yates

Team Sky (GBr): Chris Froome, Luke Rowe, Geraint Thomas

UAE Team Emirates (UAE): Ben Swift

Fortuneo-Vital Concept (Fra): Daniel McLay

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Geraint ain't been in bad form, that bad crash cost him the other day.
Froome will be fixed one way or another?

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