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So Premiership to drop to 12 clubs end of next season, possibly five clubs relegated 5th club probably in a playoff with top side in the Championship.

Funding to remain same next season just over £90,000 but to reduce gradually to around £55,000 over 4 years. That money to be spent on coaches, facilities and medical professionals etc not wages for players.

The Premiership to be at the top of the "club game" consultants have decided that "club game" should now replace the term community game. The Premiership clubs offered advice on how to maximise their business potential. £10,000 parachute payment for teams dropping down to The Championship.

"Every game matters" being the catchphrase for all "progress"

The 4 under 23 teams play cross-border competition that becomes the feeder for the regions.

BBC Wales interested in televising Premiership matches but the WRU do not feed that money back into that league as they are subsidised already.

No ring-fencing of RGC.

"A" license abolished so no need of large stand etc, but suitable playing field and changing rooms and basic facilities still a criteria.

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So Premiership to drop to 12 clubs end of next season, possibly five clubs relegated 5th club probably in a playoff with top side in the Championship.

Funding to remain same next season just over £90,000 but to reduce gradually to around £55,000 over 4 years. That money to be spent on coaches, facilities and medical professionals etc not wages for players.

The Premiership to be at the top of the "club game" consultants have decided that "club game" should now replace the term community game. The Premiership clubs offered advice on how to maximise their business potential. £10,000 parachute payment for teams dropping down to The Championship.

"Every game matters" being the catchphrase for all "progress"

The 4 under 23 teams play cross-border competition that becomes the feeder for the regions.

BBC Wales interested in televising Premiership matches but the WRU do not feed that money back into that league as they are subsidised already.

No ring-fencing of RGC.

"A" license abolished so no need of large stand etc, but suitable playing field and changing rooms and basic facilities still a criteria.


BS can you explain the highlighted quote and it's potential please ...that is a very broad spectrum?

Meanwhile, presumably the full WRU Board remains as is?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43392221

And after all that if there are still "village" clubs in the Prem and "big name" clubs in the championship the WRU will decide that the format will have to change yet again. :angry4:
This perpetual tinkering will only stop when the clubs the WRU wants in the Prem are all in the Prem. Then the WRU will ring fence the Prem.


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Only four U23 sides? And there's me thinking the RGC academy had made such incredible progress a level playing field might be on the horizon.

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Tony Panties wrote:
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So Premiership to drop to 12 clubs end of next season, possibly five clubs relegated 5th club probably in a playoff with top side in the Championship.

Funding to remain same next season just over £90,000 but to reduce gradually to around £55,000 over 4 years. That money to be spent on coaches, facilities and medical professionals etc not wages for players.

The Premiership to be at the top of the "club game" consultants have decided that "club game" should now replace the term community game. The Premiership clubs offered advice on how to maximise their business potential. £10,000 parachute payment for teams dropping down to The Championship.

"Every game matters" being the catchphrase for all "progress"

The 4 under 23 teams play cross-border competition that becomes the feeder for the regions.

BBC Wales interested in televising Premiership matches but the WRU do not feed that money back into that league as they are subsidised already.

No ring-fencing of RGC.

"A" license abolished so no need of large stand etc, but suitable playing field and changing rooms and basic facilities still a criteria.


BS can you explain the highlighted quote and it's potential please ...that is a very broad spectrum?

Meanwhile, presumably the full WRU Board remains as is?



The board wasn't discussed, so i cant say really. Reference was made to consultants and i assume its marketing they were referring to rather than organisational, so i'd say they were involved in presenting the changes rather than advising on them. The term club game just replaces the term community game the implications or just branding.

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Who the feck is Dave Standing?

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Tony Panties wrote:
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So Premiership to drop to 12 clubs end of next season, possibly five clubs relegated 5th club probably in a playoff with top side in the Championship.

Funding to remain same next season just over £90,000 but to reduce gradually to around £55,000 over 4 years. That money to be spent on coaches, facilities and medical professionals etc not wages for players.

The Premiership to be at the top of the "club game" consultants have decided that "club game" should now replace the term community game. The Premiership clubs offered advice on how to maximise their business potential. £10,000 parachute payment for teams dropping down to The Championship.

"Every game matters" being the catchphrase for all "progress"

The 4 under 23 teams play cross-border competition that becomes the feeder for the regions.

BBC Wales interested in televising Premiership matches but the WRU do not feed that money back into that league as they are subsidised already.

No ring-fencing of RGC.

"A" license abolished so no need of large stand etc, but suitable playing field and changing rooms and basic facilities still a criteria.


BS can you explain the highlighted quote and it's potential please ...that is a very broad spectrum?

Meanwhile, presumably the full WRU Board remains as is?



The board wasn't discussed, so i cant say really. Reference was made to consultants and i assume its marketing they were referring to rather than organisational, so i'd say they were involved in presenting the changes rather than advising on them. The term club game just replaces the term community game the implications or just branding.


It just seems a large blanket cover.

When I look at the last 2017 Annual report there is less differentiation in Rugby terms Regions, Premiership, Community Rugby is now just Regions and Premiership then.

I still wonder what the 21 people Board of Directors really exert in terms of presence, activity and governance.

The Executive Board seems to have the following who are more directed towards Rugby and the Game :

Geraint John ...'Head of Rugby Performance'

Ryan Jones 'Head of Rugby Participation'
and
Julie Paterson ..'Head of Rugby Operations'

(only her role really mentions what she is responsible for ...NDC system, Admin of RSA, Liaison with other Rugby bodies, also relationships with others 'Welsh Govt' , Sport Wales etc

Any clarification from anybody on the above??

Clear responsibilities and inter-relationship are fundamental in running a 'Business' especially a 'Mutual' type organisation which the WRU is.

The non executive Chairman answers to the Board etc ..;

Edit : and there's the perennial question on the Regions now an amalgam of independent and semi independent business and their representative body the PRW

http://prorugbywales.com/about-us/

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A revised version of the plans to reform WRU governance have been officially announced. Most notably, the number of Board members will be reduced from twenty to twelve:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... h-14466153


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Triffic. So, RGC, which represents a third of the population geographically, and has invested every penny in rugby futures, gets the status of premiership 'club'. Meanwhile, Peter Thomas gets to control Cardiff Blues, Cardiff Blues U23 and Cardiff RFC, and can enjoy every throbbing vein in his erection while he battles CAC for who gets the biggest share of the cake to shove down their obese duodenums.
What fun. *fupp* rugby.

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Triffic. So, RGC, which represents a third of the population geographically, and has invested every penny in rugby futures, gets the status of premiership 'club'. Meanwhile, Peter Thomas gets to control Cardiff Blues, Cardiff Blues U23 and Cardiff RFC, and can enjoy every throbbing vein in his erection while he battles CAC for who gets the biggest share of the cake to shove down their obese duodenums.
What fun. *fupp* rugby.


I doubt whether at his age he can enjoy every throbbing vein in his erection unless he's a very lucky guy. Good news however, Viagra is now for sale over the counter at Boots the chemist without a prescription so perhaps he'll be calling in at his local branch so he can toss himself off over his continuing good fortune while offering up Cardiff to the WRU so he can carry on with his development plans for the stadium and surrounding land.

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Apparently, because he has put so much of his own money into his own business, he gets to control the future of the sport, as paid for by spectators at the Millenium Stadium.
*fupping* Pink Cowboy Hat Weatherspoons *bar stewards*.

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A revised version of the plans to reform WRU governance have been officially announced. Most notably, the number of Board members will be reduced from twenty to twelve:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... h-14466153


This is good news and maybe Davies deserves some more positives from some on here who have been majoring on negatives as far as he is concerned?

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Tony Panties wrote:
najbritcol wrote:
A revised version of the plans to reform WRU governance have been officially announced. Most notably, the number of Board members will be reduced from twenty to twelve:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... h-14466153


This is good news and maybe Davies deserves some more positives from some on here who have been majoring on negatives as far as he is concerned?

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I will give some credit to Geraint John regards the presentation i saw him give, the guy knows his stuff and is switched on.
Martyn Phillips came over as a cheap car salesman, who wouldn't sell many cars.

Talk about cross-border competitions for the Premiership as well...... Ireland and Scotland.

Im not sure how much difference this restructuring is going to make, they were talking about the average budget of Premiership clubs being around £300,000 eventually they will lose around 45,000. They will still be using that money to pay players, that would not be offered semi-pro contracts anywhere else.

There will be 12 teams instead of 16, but i fail to see how the standard will improve, as 4 teams have been created at under 23 level, many of them would have been playing in the Premiership. Very close to the same level of player on average IMO. I also dont think the standards in those sides will be high as we dont produce enough players.

Personally, i think it will have a very limited effect on improving standards.

Apparently the next area for reconstruction is the 12-18 age group. thats long overdue
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Tony Panties wrote:
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Tony Panties wrote:
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So Premiership to drop to 12 clubs end of next season, possibly five clubs relegated 5th club probably in a playoff with top side in the Championship.

Funding to remain same next season just over £90,000 but to reduce gradually to around £55,000 over 4 years. That money to be spent on coaches, facilities and medical professionals etc not wages for players.

The Premiership to be at the top of the "club game" consultants have decided that "club game" should now replace the term community game. The Premiership clubs offered advice on how to maximise their business potential. £10,000 parachute payment for teams dropping down to The Championship.

"Every game matters" being the catchphrase for all "progress"

The 4 under 23 teams play cross-border competition that becomes the feeder for the regions.

BBC Wales interested in televising Premiership matches but the WRU do not feed that money back into that league as they are subsidised already.

No ring-fencing of RGC.

"A" license abolished so no need of large stand etc, but suitable playing field and changing rooms and basic facilities still a criteria.


BS can you explain the highlighted quote and it's potential please ...that is a very broad spectrum?

Meanwhile, presumably the full WRU Board remains as is?



The board wasn't discussed, so i cant say really. Reference was made to consultants and i assume its marketing they were referring to rather than organisational, so i'd say they were involved in presenting the changes rather than advising on them. The term club game just replaces the term community game the implications or just branding.


It just seems a large blanket cover.

When I look at the last 2017 Annual report there is less differentiation in Rugby terms Regions, Premiership, Community Rugby is now just Regions and Premiership then.

I still wonder what the 21 people Board of Directors really exert in terms of presence, activity and governance.

The Executive Board seems to have the following who are more directed towards Rugby and the Game :

Geraint John ...'Head of Rugby Performance'

Ryan Jones 'Head of Rugby Participation'
and
Julie Paterson ..'Head of Rugby Operations'

(only her role really mentions what she is responsible for ...NDC system, Admin of RSA, Liaison with other Rugby bodies, also relationships with others 'Welsh Govt' , Sport Wales etc

Any clarification from anybody on the above??

Clear responsibilities and inter-relationship are fundamental in running a 'Business' especially a 'Mutual' type organisation which the WRU is.

The non executive Chairman answers to the Board etc ..;

Edit : and there's the perennial question on the Regions now an amalgam of independent and semi independent business and their representative body the PRW

http://prorugbywales.com/about-us/




No i dont think "community rugby" is a term they want to be used any more Tel. It as been rebranded as "club rugby". It appeared that telling the Premiership clubs they role was to be at the pinnacle of Club Rugby was more palatable then telling them they were at the pinnacle of Community Rugby. In effect the role of the Premiership as a pathway is over. Its a culdesac on a rather rough housing estate.

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