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The old system was a joke, Gatland's Law becoming the farce that was Gatland deciding who should be treated as exempt so he could generally pick who he wanted. So we've ditched that and copied the Aussies.
Tough on Webb as it looks like he's being hung out to try, doubtless pour encourager les autres..

But pro rugby in Wales is between a rock and a hard place and IMO difficlut decisions like this need to be made if it's to have any chance of surviving over the long term.



Difficult decision ...ok.....a wise one, sensibly conducted ??

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Tony Panties wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
The old system was a joke, Gatland's Law becoming the farce that was Gatland deciding who should be treated as exempt so he could generally pick who he wanted. So we've ditched that and copied the Aussies.
Tough on Webb as it looks like he's being hung out to try, doubtless pour encourager les autres..

But pro rugby in Wales is between a rock and a hard place and IMO difficlut decisions like this need to be made if it's to have any chance of surviving over the long term.



Difficult decision ...ok.....a wise one, sensibly conducted ??


They are never going to find it easy. Moving out of Wales has been a potential international career ended nore or less since Gatland joined. Peel never really played again when he left.

Harsh on Webb maybe but that is the price for taking a large contract outside of Wales. Clearly one side isn't telling the truth, but if Webb was told, then tough luck.


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I know which side of the story to believe, so does anyone with an IQ of room temperature.

Trust the WRU...look at the management ;)

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I know which side of the story to believe, so does anyone with an IQ of room temperature.

Trust the WRU...look at the management ;)



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Webb is leaving an Ospreys side which is sinking into the mire to go and try his hand at something better. That is called ambition.
The regions love the idea they should be able to take advantage of the free market economy, but when they get picked off by the big boys they cry foul and go running to the union, demanding socialism.
Welsh rugby now says one of its few good players cannot play for them, unless he commits his future to a shit team.
Bravo. Here's our foot. Ready, aim, fire.

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And by a strange twist of fate, Priestland has a good chance of returning to the national squad as he won't be hampered by the wildcard rule. :cheers:

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And by a strange twist of fate, Priestland has a good chance of returning to the national squad as he won't be hampered by the wildcard rule. :cheers:


Not with the present bunch in charge

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It would be sheer sadism to pick Priestland for the national side again. Leave the poor lad alone.

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What I don't get is this hero worship and consequent destruction.

It is a simple fact of life that Wales always have a fighting squad irrespective of media and history.

Some one comes and some one goes but the game goes on.

No one is necessary and no one is useless.

Wales is Wales!

all the rest is detail.


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Tony Panties wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
The old system was a joke, Gatland's Law becoming the farce that was Gatland deciding who should be treated as exempt so he could generally pick who he wanted. So we've ditched that and copied the Aussies.
Tough on Webb as it looks like he's being hung out to try, doubtless pour encourager les autres..

But pro rugby in Wales is between a rock and a hard place and IMO difficlut decisions like this need to be made if it's to have any chance of surviving over the long term.



Difficult decision ...ok.....a wise one, sensibly conducted ??


That's the $64,000 question.
And the honest answer is I don't know.
What I do think is that the WRU need to do something to try and stop the flood of players to England and France, or pro rugby in Wales will struggle to survive.
So whilst this may or may not be the wisest course of action, IMO it is better than taking no action at all.

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Old Second Row wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
The old system was a joke, Gatland's Law becoming the farce that was Gatland deciding who should be treated as exempt so he could generally pick who he wanted. So we've ditched that and copied the Aussies.
Tough on Webb as it looks like he's being hung out to try, doubtless pour encourager les autres..

But pro rugby in Wales is between a rock and a hard place and IMO difficlut decisions like this need to be made if it's to have any chance of surviving over the long term.



Difficult decision ...ok.....a wise one, sensibly conducted ??


That's the $64,000 question.
And the honest answer is I don't know.
What I do think is that the WRU need to do something to try and stop the flood of players to England and France, or pro rugby in Wales will struggle to survive.
So whilst this may or may not be the wisest course of action, IMO it is better than taking no action at all.


I agree.

If we were producing more players that we needed, then losing players to England and France would be a good thing. As it is, each top player we lose weakens the regional system and also as a consequence of having to bring in more championship players into the squads of the regions, weakens them too.

The entire success of Welsh rugby relies on a foundation of str9ng regions. Short term gain for the international team is long term failure.


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Cymru am byth wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
The old system was a joke, Gatland's Law becoming the farce that was Gatland deciding who should be treated as exempt so he could generally pick who he wanted. So we've ditched that and copied the Aussies.
Tough on Webb as it looks like he's being hung out to try, doubtless pour encourager les autres..

But pro rugby in Wales is between a rock and a hard place and IMO difficlut decisions like this need to be made if it's to have any chance of surviving over the long term.



Difficult decision ...ok.....a wise one, sensibly conducted ??


That's the $64,000 question.
And the honest answer is I don't know.
What I do think is that the WRU need to do something to try and stop the flood of players to England and France, or pro rugby in Wales will struggle to survive.
So whilst this may or may not be the wisest course of action, IMO it is better than taking no action at all.


I agree.

If we were producing more players that we needed, then losing players to England and France would be a good thing. As it is, each top player we lose weakens the regional system and also as a consequence of having to bring in more championship players into the squads of the regions, weakens them too.

The entire success of Welsh rugby relies on a foundation of str9ng regions. Short term gain for the international team is long term failure.


A contentious view ...

Let the Welsh internationals go (insist on Article 9) and spend resultant money on some GOOD NWQs .. Wales and Regions both win ....

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Tony Panties wrote:
Cymru am byth wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
The old system was a joke, Gatland's Law becoming the farce that was Gatland deciding who should be treated as exempt so he could generally pick who he wanted. So we've ditched that and copied the Aussies.
Tough on Webb as it looks like he's being hung out to try, doubtless pour encourager les autres..

But pro rugby in Wales is between a rock and a hard place and IMO difficlut decisions like this need to be made if it's to have any chance of surviving over the long term.



Difficult decision ...ok.....a wise one, sensibly conducted ??


That's the $64,000 question.
And the honest answer is I don't know.
What I do think is that the WRU need to do something to try and stop the flood of players to England and France, or pro rugby in Wales will struggle to survive.
So whilst this may or may not be the wisest course of action, IMO it is better than taking no action at all.


I agree.

If we were producing more players that we needed, then losing players to England and France would be a good thing. As it is, each top player we lose weakens the regional system and also as a consequence of having to bring in more championship players into the squads of the regions, weakens them too.

The entire success of Welsh rugby relies on a foundation of str9ng regions. Short term gain for the international team is long term failure.


A contentious view ...

Let the Welsh internationals go (insist on Article 9) and spend resultant money on some GOOD NWQs .. Wales and Regions both win ....


In other words: whatever money is saved on top Welsh players leaving should then be spent on bringing in lots of Kiwis, South Africans and Pacific Islanders? Not very joined-up or long-term thinking that.


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I'm sorry, but Welsh rugby does not 'rely' on strong regions.
The Welsh regions have been largely crap during one of Wales' most successful ever spells at international level, and as far as the clubs lower down are concerned, the regions are entirely immaterial.
The regions should function as an integral part of the pyramid, but they've fought tooth and nail to prove they are independant entities. They value their own self importance far more highly than Welsh rugby, as do pretty much all the other clubs. There is no joined up thinking, there's only a shambolic frenzy of cat fighting.

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najbritcol wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
Cymru am byth wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
Old Second Row wrote:
The old system was a joke, Gatland's Law becoming the farce that was Gatland deciding who should be treated as exempt so he could generally pick who he wanted. So we've ditched that and copied the Aussies.
Tough on Webb as it looks like he's being hung out to try, doubtless pour encourager les autres..

But pro rugby in Wales is between a rock and a hard place and IMO difficlut decisions like this need to be made if it's to have any chance of surviving over the long term.



Difficult decision ...ok.....a wise one, sensibly conducted ??


That's the $64,000 question.
And the honest answer is I don't know.
What I do think is that the WRU need to do something to try and stop the flood of players to England and France, or pro rugby in Wales will struggle to survive.
So whilst this may or may not be the wisest course of action, IMO it is better than taking no action at all.


I agree.

If we were producing more players that we needed, then losing players to England and France would be a good thing. As it is, each top player we lose weakens the regional system and also as a consequence of having to bring in more championship players into the squads of the regions, weakens them too.

The entire success of Welsh rugby relies on a foundation of str9ng regions. Short term gain for the international team is long term failure.


A contentious view ...

Let the Welsh internationals go (insist on Article 9) and spend resultant money on some GOOD NWQs .. Wales and Regions both win ....


In other words: whatever money is saved on top Welsh players leaving should then be spent on bringing in lots of Kiwis, South Africans and Pacific Islanders? Not very joined-up or long-term thinking that.


I'm worried about me, I think that I may have been infected by some of your posts

Meant in jest ;)

There was, however, a serious tinge to my suggestion and I don't think it's as daft as it may seem.

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