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Post Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
See here: http://www.ospreysrugby.com/News/Article/50666


Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:34 pm
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
And in the meantime Kieron Fonotia heads in the opposite direction: http://www.scarlets.co.uk/eng/news/1225 ... h650Pll9dg


Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:46 pm
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
Curiouser and curiouser ... what the hell is going on :scratch:

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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
I think Scott (a) wants more money and (b) feels his regular starting place at the Scarlets has been threatened more and more.


Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:11 pm
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
Isn't it obvious.
Scarlets now have 3 Welsh qualified centres (Williams, DAvies & Parks).
Parkes was geting selected before him (because he is better).

Scarlets need a NWQ centre.
Ospreys needs some experience and stablity in the centre.
Scott gets a pay rise and regular start.

Everyone 's a winner.

There will be a LOT more of this kind of thing I imagine, as players realise there are now only a limited number of options which provide opportunities to compete for Welsh spots.


Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:43 pm
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
welshy34 wrote:
Isn't it obvious.
Scarlets now have 3 Welsh qualified centres (Williams, DAvies & Parks).
Parkes was geting selected before him (because he is better).

Scarlets need a NWQ centre.
Ospreys needs some experience and stablity in the centre.
Scott gets a pay rise and regular start.

Everyone 's a winner.

There will be a LOT more of this kind of thing I imagine, as players realise there are now only a limited number of options which provide opportunities to compete for Welsh spots.


Where are the Scarlets going to get the money for a good NWQ centre?

How can the Osps afford to pay Scott Williams more, ....

Ok Drags apparently had a backer to deny Scarlets NDC for Moriarty .. or so the story goes.

Where's the money across the Regions at the mo given their perils and admitting they need WRU support eg Osps published interview :scratch:

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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
welshy34 wrote:
Isn't it obvious.
Scarlets now have 3 Welsh qualified centres (Williams, DAvies & Parks).
Parkes was geting selected before him (because he is better).

Scarlets need a NWQ centre.
Ospreys needs some experience and stablity in the centre.
Scott gets a pay rise and regular start.

Everyone 's a winner.

There will be a LOT more of this kind of thing I imagine, as players realise there are now only a limited number of options which provide opportunities to compete for Welsh spots.


That isn't a bad thing though. If players in our teams are being kept out by other non Welsh players. Seeing them move to another team means that each week we are fielding a better group of players. This should surely be seen as a positive thing.


Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:20 pm
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
Odd one this, his performances and general demeanour suggest he has the hump with something


Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:05 pm
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
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Odd one this, his performances and general demeanour suggest he has the hump with something


George North Mk.2 ....


Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:24 pm
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
Tony Panties wrote:
welshy34 wrote:
Isn't it obvious.
Scarlets now have 3 Welsh qualified centres (Williams, DAvies & Parks).
Parkes was geting selected before him (because he is better).

Scarlets need a NWQ centre.
Ospreys needs some experience and stablity in the centre.
Scott gets a pay rise and regular start.

Everyone 's a winner.

There will be a LOT more of this kind of thing I imagine, as players realise there are now only a limited number of options which provide opportunities to compete for Welsh spots.


Where are the Scarlets going to get the money for a good NWQ centre?

How can the Osps afford to pay Scott Williams more, ....

Ok Drags apparently had a backer to deny Scarlets NDC for Moriarty .. or so the story goes.

Where's the money across the Regions at the mo given their perils and admitting they need WRU support eg Osps published interview :scratch:
With regard to funding a NWC center, they will have the money made available by Scott's departure. :scratch: Obvious one that Tel. :D

Gutted to see him go. He will be good for the Ospreys and with the Os back three and Ashley Beck outside him, that Os back line looks quite dangerous for next season.

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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
Not odd in the least, the guy wants guaranteed starts and can't get them. I don't watch that much regional rugby but Parkes looks to me a much better player.
However how much good it will do his career going to Ospreys is a moot point. The difference in the quality of coaching between the Scarlets and the Ospreys is a paradigm shift


Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:33 am
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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
I am not sure that parkes is a much better player but is in much better form. The guaranteed starts argument is a bit precious as aren’t professionals usually banging in about how competition for places drives players on. Also isn’t that hoe depth is created, e.g. Samson Lee has to compete with Werner Kruger for a starting spot

Maybe he has took the 2 year deal to cover him up to a World Cup so he definitely gets selected through starting/playing games. That would give him one more contract after the World Cup where he could go abroad and maximise his value.

Hopefully that isn’t the argument and he has gone because he genuinely is looking forward to the challenge and additional signings on the way at the Ospreys


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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
ICEverything wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
welshy34 wrote:
Isn't it obvious.
Scarlets now have 3 Welsh qualified centres (Williams, DAvies & Parks).
Parkes was geting selected before him (because he is better).

Scarlets need a NWQ centre.
Ospreys needs some experience and stablity in the centre.
Scott gets a pay rise and regular start.

Everyone 's a winner.

There will be a LOT more of this kind of thing I imagine, as players realise there are now only a limited number of options which provide opportunities to compete for Welsh spots.


Where are the Scarlets going to get the money for a good NWQ centre?

How can the Osps afford to pay Scott Williams more, ....

Ok Drags apparently had a backer to deny Scarlets NDC for Moriarty .. or so the story goes.

Where's the money across the Regions at the mo given their perils and admitting they need WRU support eg Osps published interview :scratch:
With regard to funding a NWC center, they will have the money made available by Scott's departure. :scratch: Obvious one that Tel. :D

Gutted to see him go. He will be good for the Ospreys and with the Os back three and Ashley Beck outside him, that Os back line looks quite dangerous for next season.


Icey, I thought that Williams was on an NDC contract...IE they only paid x% for him but with an NWQ they'd have to pay 100%... that's an increased investment, I understand that the NWQ wages would be a wash.... and an NWQ of the stated 'value' would be costly anyway.

What did Scarlets get from the Williams 'transfer' ?

So maybe it's not that obvious to me :scratch:

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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
Tony Panties wrote:
ICEverything wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
welshy34 wrote:
Isn't it obvious.
Scarlets now have 3 Welsh qualified centres (Williams, DAvies & Parks).
Parkes was geting selected before him (because he is better).

Scarlets need a NWQ centre.
Ospreys needs some experience and stablity in the centre.
Scott gets a pay rise and regular start.

Everyone 's a winner.

There will be a LOT more of this kind of thing I imagine, as players realise there are now only a limited number of options which provide opportunities to compete for Welsh spots.


Where are the Scarlets going to get the money for a good NWQ centre?

How can the Osps afford to pay Scott Williams more, ....

Ok Drags apparently had a backer to deny Scarlets NDC for Moriarty .. or so the story goes.

Where's the money across the Regions at the mo given their perils and admitting they need WRU support eg Osps published interview :scratch:
With regard to funding a NWC center, they will have the money made available by Scott's departure. :scratch: Obvious one that Tel. :D

Gutted to see him go. He will be good for the Ospreys and with the Os back three and Ashley Beck outside him, that Os back line looks quite dangerous for next season.


Icey, I thought that Williams was on an NDC contract...IE they only paid x% for him but with an NWQ they'd have to pay 100%... that's an increased investment, I understand that the NWQ wages would be a wash.... and an NWQ of the stated 'value' would be costly anyway.

What did Scarlets get from the Williams 'transfer' ?

So maybe it's not that obvious to me :scratch:


I seem to remember he didn't get a NDC. I forget the details but I think he turned one down.


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Post Re: Scott Williams signs for Ospreys on three year deal
Tony Panties wrote:
ICEverything wrote:
Tony Panties wrote:
welshy34 wrote:
Isn't it obvious.
Scarlets now have 3 Welsh qualified centres (Williams, DAvies & Parks).
Parkes was geting selected before him (because he is better).

Scarlets need a NWQ centre.
Ospreys needs some experience and stablity in the centre.
Scott gets a pay rise and regular start.

Everyone 's a winner.

There will be a LOT more of this kind of thing I imagine, as players realise there are now only a limited number of options which provide opportunities to compete for Welsh spots.


Where are the Scarlets going to get the money for a good NWQ centre?

How can the Osps afford to pay Scott Williams more, ....

Ok Drags apparently had a backer to deny Scarlets NDC for Moriarty .. or so the story goes.

Where's the money across the Regions at the mo given their perils and admitting they need WRU support eg Osps published interview :scratch:
With regard to funding a NWC center, they will have the money made available by Scott's departure. :scratch: Obvious one that Tel. :D

Gutted to see him go. He will be good for the Ospreys and with the Os back three and Ashley Beck outside him, that Os back line looks quite dangerous for next season.


Icey, I thought that Williams was on an NDC contract...IE they only paid x% for him but with an NWQ they'd have to pay 100%... that's an increased investment, I understand that the NWQ wages would be a wash.... and an NWQ of the stated 'value' would be costly anyway.

What did Scarlets get from the Williams 'transfer' ?

So maybe it's not that obvious to me :scratch:


I seem to remember he didn't get a NDC. I forget the details but I think he turned one down.


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